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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:base="urn:cts:pdlrefwk:viaf88890045.003.perseus-eng1"><body xml:lang="eng" n="urn:cts:pdlrefwk:viaf88890045.003.perseus-eng1"><div type="textpart" subtype="alphabetic_letter" n="T"><div type="textpart" subtype="entry" xml:id="timarchides-bio-2" n="timarchides_2"><head><persName xml:lang="la"><surname full="yes">Tima'rchides</surname></persName></head><p>and TI'MOCLES (<foreign xml:lang="grc">Τιμαρχίδης</foreign>, <foreign xml:lang="grc">Τιμοκλῆς</foreign>), of Athens, the sons of Polycles, have already been spoken of under
       <hi rend="smallcaps">POLYCLES</hi>, p. 459a., where their statues of Asclepius and Athena are
      mentioned, and their date is discussed ; for it is, of course, dependent on the date assigned
      to Polycles. In addition to the remarks in that article, it should be observed that, in the
      passage of Pliny referred to (<hi rend="ital">H. N.</hi> 36.5. s. 4.10), not only are Polycles
      and the sons of Timarchides mentioned as the makers of statues in the portico of Octavia, but
      also Timarchides himself, as the maker of a statue of Apollo, holding the cithara, in his
      temple, which formed a part of those buildings. Moreover, it is most probable that the
      passage, correctly read, contains some further information about " the sons of Timarchides,"
      who are nameless in the ordinary text, as established by Harduin. The old text had " <hi rend="ital">Item Polycles et Dionysius, Timarchdis filii," &amp;c. ;</hi> and, although the
      fist four words are not contained in the MSS. used by Harduin, who therefore rejected them,
      they are found, with a slight variation, in the Bamberg MS., which gives <hi rend="ital">"
       Idem polycles et dionysius timarcidis, fiji," i. e. filius.</hi> The last word is confirmed
      by the Munich MS., which has " <hi rend="ital">machidis filius.</hi>" Hence it would appear to
      be probable that the true reading is " <hi rend="ital">Idem Polycles</hi> (who had been
      mentioned in the preceding sentence) <hi rend="ital">et Dionysius, Timarchidis filius,</hi>"
      or, as Jan proposes to read it, " <hi rend="ital">Iidem Polycles et Dionysius</hi> (for the
      latter also is mentioned in the preceding sentence), <hi rend="ital">Timarchidis filii.</hi>"
      (Sillig's edition of Pliny and Jan's Supplement.)</p><p>Slight as is the difference between the two readings, they have a very different effect on
      the succession of this family of artists. According to the former, we have only to add to the
      genealogy the name of Dionysius, thus :--</p><p><figure/></p><p>But then we have the somewhat improbable result of a grandfather and grandson working
      together on the same statue. If, on the other hand, we adopt the reading of Jan, and combine
      it with the statement of Pausanias, that Timocles and Timarchides were the sons of Polycles,
      and if we still identify this Polycles with the Polycles of Pliny, the result is the absurdity
      that " the same Polycles " was both the son and the father of Timarchides. Either, therefore,
      we must place another Timarchides at the beginning of the genealogy, thus--</p><p><figure/></p><p>or, we must reject the word <hi rend="ital">idem</hi> or <hi rend="ital">iidem</hi>
      (restoring, perhaps, <hi rend="ital">item</hi> in its place), and thus obtain another
      Polycles, the brother of Dionysius : or, lastly, the identification of the Polycles of
      Pausanias and Pliny may be given up, and it may be supposed that we have two different and
      somewhat distinct portions of this artistic family, namely, <figure/> the artists mentioned by
      Pausanias, and <figure/> those mentioned by Pliny. In this position the question must be left
      for the solution of other scholars, and for the instruction of students in the difficulties of
      criticism. It must, however, be remembered that the text cannot be regarded as fixed by the
      authority of the Bamberg MS.</p><div><head>Works</head><p>The works of Timarchides and Timocles at Rome were in marble. Pausanias does not specify
       the material of their statues which he mentions. Pliny, however, includes Timarchides in his
       list of those statuaries in bronze, who made <hi rend="ital">athletas et armatos et venatores
        sacrificantesque.</hi> (<hi rend="ital">H. N.</hi> 34.8. s. 19.34.) </p></div><byline>[<ref target="author.P.S">P.S</ref>]</byline></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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