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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:base="urn:cts:pdlrefwk:viaf88890045.003.perseus-eng1"><body xml:lang="eng" n="urn:cts:pdlrefwk:viaf88890045.003.perseus-eng1"><div type="textpart" subtype="alphabetic_letter" n="T"><div type="textpart" subtype="entry" xml:id="thales-bio-2" n="thales_2"><head><persName xml:lang="la"><surname full="yes">Thales</surname></persName></head><p>or THALE'TAS (<foreign xml:lang="grc">Θαλῆς</foreign>, <foreign xml:lang="grc">Θαλήτας</foreign>), the celebrated musician and lyric poet. The two forms of the name are
      mere varieties of the same word: but <foreign xml:lang="grc">Θαλῆς</foreign> seems to be
      the more genuine ancient form; for it not only has the authority of Aristotle, Strabo, and
      Plutarch, but it is also used by Pausanias (<bibl n="Paus. 1.14.4">1.14.4</bibl>) in quoting
      the verses composed in honour of the musician by his contemporary Polymnestns. Nevertheless,
      it is more convenient to follow the prevailing custom among modern writers, and call him
      Thaletas.</p><p>The position of Thaletas is one of the most interesting, and at the same time most difficult
      points, in that most interesting and difficult subject, the early history of Greek music and
      lyric poetry. The most certain fact known of him is, fortunately, that which is also the most
      important; namely, that he introduced from Crete into Sparta certain principles or elements of
      music and rhythm, which did not exist in Terpander's system, and thereby founded the second of
      the musical schools which flourished at Sparta. (Plut. <hi rend="ital">de Mus. 9,</hi> p.
      1135b. )</p><p>He was a native of Crete, and, according to the best writers, of the city of Gortyna.
      (Polymnestus, apud <hi rend="ital"/> Paus. <hi rend="ital">l.c. ;</hi> Plut. <hi rend="ital">de Mus. l.c.</hi>) Suidas has preserved other traditions, which assigned him to Cnossus or
      to Elyrus. (Suid. s.v. for the articles <foreign xml:lang="grc">Θαλήτας Κρής</foreign>
      and <foreign xml:lang="grc">Θαλήτας Κνώσσιος</foreign> refer without doubt to the same
      individual, and in the former article the words <foreign xml:lang="grc">ἢ
       Ἰλλυρίος</foreign> ought to be <foreign xml:lang="grc">Ἐλύριος</foreign> : comp.
      Meursius, <hi rend="ital">Cret.</hi> 1.9; Küster, <hi rend="ital">ad loc. ;</hi>
      Müller, <hi rend="ital">Hist. Lit. of Greece,</hi> vol. i. p. 159.)</p><p>In compliance, according to tradition, with an invitation which the Spartans sent to him in
      obedience to an oracle, he removed to Sparta, where, by the sacred character of his paeans,
      and the humanizing influence of his music, he appeased the wrath of Apollo, who had visited
      the city with a <pb n="1018"/> plague, and composed the factions of the citizens, who were at
      enmity with each other. (Paus. <hi rend="ital">l.c. ;</hi> Plut. <hi rend="ital">Lycurg. 4
       ;</hi> Ephorus, apud <hi rend="ital"/> Strab. x. pp. 480, 482; Sext. Empir. <hi rend="ital">ad v. Rhet.</hi> ii. p. 292, Fabric. ; <bibl n="Ael. VH 12.50">Ael. VH 12.50</bibl>.) At
      Sparta he became the head of a new school (<foreign xml:lang="grc">κατάστασις</foreign>) of
      music, which appears never afterwards to have been supplanted, and the influence of which was
      maintained also by Xenodamus of Cythera, Xenocritus of Locris, Polymnestus of Colophon, and
      Sacadas of Argos. (Plut. <hi rend="ital">de Mus. l.c.</hi>) These matters will be examined
      more fully presently; but the brief outline just given is necessary for the understanding of
      the chronological investigation which follows.</p><p>In studying the early history of Greek lyric poetry, nothing would be more desirable, if it
      were possible, than to fix the precise dates of the musicians and poets who contributed to its
      development ; that so we might trace the steps of its progress, in relation to the time they
      occupied, the social state of the people amongst whom they were made, and the order in which
      they followed from one another. It must, however, be confessed that, after all the labour
      which scholars have bestowed on the subject, there is an uncertainty, generally to the extent
      of half a century, and in some cases more, respecting the dates of the earliest poets, while
      the more important point of their relative order of succession and their distance from each
      other in time is beset with great difficulties. These remarks apply most strongly to Thaletas,
      the various dates assigned to whom, by ancient and modern writers, range over a period from
      before the time of Homer down to the year <date when-custom="-620">B. C. 620</date>.</p><p>How uncertain, and even fabulous, were the traditions followed by the generality of the
      ancient writers respecting the date of Thaletas, is manifest from the statements of Suidas,
      that he lived before the time of Homer, of Demetrius Magnes (apud <hi rend="ital"/>
      <bibl n="D. L. 1.38">D. L. 1.38</bibl>), that he was " very ancient, about the time of Hesiod
      and Homer and Lycurgus," and of the many other writers, who make him contemporary with
      Lycurgus, and even an elder contemporary. In nearly all the accounts, above referred to, of
      the removal of Thaletas to Sparta, he is said to have gone thither at the invitation of
      Lycurgus, who used his influence to prepare the minds of the people for his own laws ; while
      some even speak of him as if he were a legislator, from whom Lycurgus derived some of his
      laws. (Sext. Empir. <hi rend="ital">l.c. ;</hi> Arist. <hi rend="ital">Pol.</hi> 2.9.5, 2.12.)
      These accounts, which Aristotle (<hi rend="ital">l.c.</hi>) condemns as anachronisms, can
      easily be explained. The influence of music upon character and manners was in the opinion of
      the ancients so great, that it was quite natural to speak of Terpander and Thaletas as
      fellow-workers with the great legislator of the Spartans in forming the character of the
      people; and then such statements were interpreted by later writers in a chronological sense;
      for similar traditions are recorded of Terpander as well as of Thaletas. [<hi rend="smallcaps">TERPANDER</hi>.] Moreover, in the case of Thaletas, the supposed connection with Lycurgus
      would assume a more probable appearance on account of his coming from Crete, from whence also
      Lycurgus was supposed to have derived so many of his institutions; and this is, in fact, the
      specific form which the tradition assumed (Ephor. apud <hi rend="ital"/>
      <bibl n="Strabo x.p.482">Strab. x. p.482</bibl>; Plut. <hi rend="ital">Lycurg. 4</hi>),
      namely, that Lycurgus, arriving at Crete in the course of his travels, there met with
      Thaletas, who was one of the men renowned in the island for wisdom and political abilities
       (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἕνα τῶν νομιζομένων ἐκεῖ σοφῶν καὶ πολιτικῶν</foreign>),
      and who, while professing to be a lyric poet, used his art as a pretext, but in fact devoted
      himself to political science in the same way as the ablest of legislators (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ποιητὴν μὲν δοκοῦντα λυπικῶν μελῶν καὶ πρόσχημα τὴν τέχνην ταύτην
       πεποιημένον</foreign>, <foreign xml:lang="grc">ἔρλῳ δὲ ἅπερ οἱ κράτιστοι τῶν
       νομοθετῶν διαπραττόμενον</foreign>). Add to this the great probability that later writers
      mistook the sense of the word <foreign xml:lang="grc">νόμοι</foreign> in the ancient
      accounts of Thaletas; and his association with Lycurgus is explained. It is not worth while to
      discuss the statement of Jerome (<hi rend="ital">Chron. s. a. 1266,</hi>
      <date when-custom="-750">B. C. 750</date>), who says that Thales <hi rend="ital">of Miletus</hi>
      (probably meaning Thales of Crete, for the philosopher's age is well known) lived in the reign
      of Romulus. Perhaps this may only be another form of the tradition which made him contemporary
      with Lycurgus.</p><p>The strictly historical evidence respecting the date of Thaletas is contained in three
      testimonies. First, the statement of Glaucus, one of the highest authorities on the subject,
      that he was later than Archilochus. (Plut. <hi rend="ital">de Mus. 10,</hi> p. 1134d. e.)
      Secondly, the fact recorded by Pausanias (<bibl n="Paus. 1.14.4">1.14.4</bibl>), that
      Polymnestus composed verses in his praise for the Lacedaemonians, whence it is probable that
      he was an elder contemporary of Polymnestus, and therefore older than Alcman, by whom
      Polymnestus was mentioned. (Plut. <hi rend="ital">de Mus. 5,</hi> p. 1133a.) Thirdly, in his
      account of the second school or system (<foreign xml:lang="grc">κατάστασις</foreign>) of
      music at Sparta, Plutarch tells us (<hi rend="ital">de Mus. 9,</hi> p. 1134c.) that the first
      system was established by Terpander; but of the second the following had the best claim to be
      considered as the leaders (<foreign xml:lang="grc">μάλιστα αἰτίαν ἔχουσιν ἡγεμόνες
       γενέσθαι</foreign>), Thaletas, Xenodamus, Xenocritus, Polymnestus, and Sacadas; and that to
      them was ascribed the origin of the <title>Gymnopaedia</title> in Lacedaemon, of the
       <title>Apodeixeis</title> in Arcadia, and of the <title>Endymatia</title> in Argos. This
      important testimony is very probably derived from the work of Glaucus. Lastly, Plutarch (<hi rend="ital">de Mus. 10,</hi> p. 1134e.) mentions a vague tradition, which is on the face of
      it improbable, and which is quite unworthy to be placed by the side of the other three, that
      Thaletas derived the rhythm called Maron and the Cretic rhythm from the music of the Phrygian
      flute-player Olympus (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἐκ γὰρ τῆς Ὀλύμπου αὐλήσεως Θαλήταν
       φασὶν ἐξειργάσθαι ταῦτα·</foreign> the context shows that Plutarch here deserts his
      guide, Glaucus, and sets up against him the traditions of other writers, we know not
      whom).</p><p>Now, from these testimonies we obtain the results, that Thaletas was younger than
      Archilochus and Terpander, but older than Polymnestus and Alcman, that he was the first of the
      poets of the second Spartan school of music, by whose influence the great Dorian festivals
      which have been mentioned were either established, or, what is the more probable meaning, were
      systematically arranged in respect of the choruses which were performed at them.</p><p>These conditions would all be satisfied by supposing that Thaletas began to flourish early
      in the seventh century B. C., provided that we accept the argument for an earlier date of
      Terpander than that usually assigned to him [<hi rend="smallcaps">TERPANDER</hi>]. To escape
      from the difficulty as Clinton does (<hi rend="ital">F. H.</hi> vol. i. <hi rend="ital">s. a.
       644</hi>), by making Terpander <hi rend="ital">later</hi> than <pb n="1019"/> Thaletas, is
      altogether inadmissible; for, if we reject Plutarch's account of the two musical schools at
      Sparta, the <hi rend="ital">first</hi> founded by Terpander, and the second by Thaletas, the
      whole matter is thrown into hopeless confusion. Such a mistake, made by so eminent a
      chronologer, through following implicitly Eusebius and the Parian marble, is an excellent
      example of the danger of trusting to the positive statements of the chronographers in
      opposition to a connected chain of inference from more detailed testimonies. On the other
      hand, Müller, while pointing out Clinton's error, appears to us to place Thaletas much
      too low, in consequence of accepting the tradition recorded by Plutarch respecting Olympus,
      whom also he places later than Terpander (<hi rend="ital">Hist. Lit.</hi> vol. i. pp. 158,
      159). The fact is that we have no sufficient data for the time of Olympus; and even if we had,
      the tradition recorded by Plutarch is much too doubtful to be set up against the evidence
      derived from the relations of Thaletas to Archilochus and Alcman. When Müller says that
      Clinton " does not allow sufficient weight to the far more artificial character of the music
      and rhythms of Thaletas " (i. e. than those of Terpander), he seems to imply that a long time
      must necessarily have intervened between the two. Not only is there no ground for this idea,
      but it is opposed to analogy. There is no ground for it; for it is clear from all accounts
      that the second system of music was not gradually developed out of the first, by successive
      improvements, but was formed by the addition of new elements derived from other quarters, of
      which the first and chief were those introduced by Thaletas from Crete. It is also opposed to
      analogy, which teaches us that the period of most rapid improvement in any art is that in
      which it is first brought under the dominion of definite laws, by some great genius, whose
      first efforts are the signal for the appearance of a host of rivals, imitators, and pupils.
      Moreover, if there be any truth in the tradition, it would seem probable that Terpander and
      Thaletas were led to Sparta by very similar causes at no very distant period; and it seems
      most improbable that, after music had attained the degree of developement to which Terpander
      brought it at Sparta, the important additional elements, which existed in the Cretan system,
      should not have been introduced for a period of forty years, which is the interval placed by
      Müller, between Terpander and Thaletas. Müller's mode of computing backwards the
      date of Thaletas from that of Sacadas (<date when-custom="-590">B. C. 590</date>) is altogether
      arbitrary; but if such a method he allowable at all, surely thirty years is far too short a
      time to assign as the period during which the second school of Spartan music chiefly
      flourished. On the whole, decidedly as Clinton is wrong as to Terpander, he is probably near
      the mark in fixing the period of Thaletas at <date when-custom="-690">B. C. 690</date>-<date when-custom="-660">660</date> ; though it might be better to say that he deems to have <hi rend="ital">flourished about</hi>
      <date when-custom="-670">B. C. 670</date> or 660, and how much before or after those dates cannot be
      determined. It appears not unlikely that he was already distinguished in Crete, while
      Terpander flourished at Sparta.</p><p>The improvement effected in music by Thaletas appears to have consisted in the introduction
      into Sparta of that species of music and poetry which was associated with the religious rites
      of his native country; in which the calm and solemn worship of Apollo prevailed side by side
      with the more animated songs and dances of the Curetes, which resembled the Phrygian worship
      of the Magna Mater (Müller, p. 160). His chief compositions were <hi rend="ital">paeans</hi> and <hi rend="ital">hyporchemes,</hi> which belonged respectively to these two
      kinds of worship. In connection with the paean he introduced the rhythm of the Cretic foot,
      with its resolutions in the Paeons; and the Pyrrhic dance, with its several variations of
      rhythm, is also ascribed to him. He seems to have used both the lyre and the flute. (See
      Müller, pp. 160, 161.)</p><p>Plutarch and other writers speak of him as a lyric <hi rend="ital">poct,</hi> and Suidas
      mentions, as his works, <foreign xml:lang="grc">μέλη</foreign> and <foreign xml:lang="grc">ποιήματά τινα μυθικά</foreign>, and it is pretty certain that the musical
      compositions of his age and school were often combined with suitable original poems, though
      sometimes, as we are expressly told of many of the nomes of Terpander, they were adapted to
      the verses of Homer and others of the older poets. Be this as it may, we have now no remains
      of the poetry of Thaletas. (Fabric. <hi rend="ital">Bibl. Graec.</hi> vol. i. pp. 295-297;
      Müller, <hi rend="ital">Hist. of the Lit. of Anc. Greece,</hi> vol. i. pp. 159-161;
      Ulrici, <hi rend="ital">Gesch. d. Hellen. Dichtkunst,</hi> vol. ii. pp. 212, foll., a very
      valuable account of Thaletas; Bernhardy, <hi rend="ital">Geschichte der Griech. Lit.</hi> vol.
      i. pp. 267, 270, vol. ii. pp. 420, 421, 427.) </p><byline>[<ref target="author.P.S">P.S</ref>]</byline></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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