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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div n="urn:cts:latinLit:phi1002.phi001.perseus-eng2" type="translation" xml:lang="eng"><div n="7" type="textpart" subtype="book"><div n="4" type="textpart" subtype="section"><div n="39" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Further there are cases where a senator sets forth to the senate the <hi rend="italic">reasons which determine him to commit
                                suicide,</hi>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"> Based on a
                                law of Massilia, where the state provided poison for the would-be
                                suicide, provided he could justify himself before the senate.
                            </note> in which there is one <hi rend="italic">legal</hi> question,
                            namely, whether a man who desires to kill himself in order to escape the
                            clutches of the law ought to be prevented from so doing, while the
                            remaining questions are all concerned with <hi rend="italic">quality.</hi> There are also fictitious cases concerned with <hi rend="italic">wills,</hi> in which the only question raised is one
                            of <hi rend="italic">quality,</hi> as, for instance, in the
                            controversial theme quoted above, <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">VII. i. 38.</note> where the philosopher,
                            physician and orator all claim the fourth share which their father had
                            left to the most worthy of his sons. The same is true of cases where
                            suitors of equal rank claim the hand of an orphan and the question
                            confronting her relatives is which is the most suitable. </p></div><div n="40" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> I do not, however, intend to discuss every possible theme, <pb n="v7-9 p.131"/> since fresh ones can always be invented, nor yet to
                            deal with all the questions to which they give rise, since these vary
                            with circumstances. But I cannot help expressing my astonishment that
                            Flavus, <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">i.e.</hi> Verginius mentioned in § 24. </note> for whose
                            authority I have the highest respect, restricted the range of <hi rend="italic">quality</hi> to such an extent in the text-book which
                            he composed for the special guidance of the schools. </p></div><div n="41" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p><hi rend="italic">Quantity</hi> also, as I have already stated, <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">§ 16.</note> falls as a rule,
                            though not always, under the head of <hi rend="italic">quality,</hi>
                            whether it is concerned with measure or number. Measure, however,
                            sometimes consists in the valuation of a deed with a view to determining
                            the amount of guilt or the amount of benefit involved, while, on the
                            other hand, it sometimes turns on a point of law, when the dispute is
                            under what law a man is to be punished or rewarded. </p></div><div n="42" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> For example is a ravisher to pay 10,000 sesterces <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">cp.</hi> IV. ii. 69. </note>
                            because that is the penalty appointed by law, or is he liable to capital
                            punishment as a murderer because his victim hanged himself? In such
                            cases those who plead as if there were a question between two laws, are
                            wrong: for there is no dispute about the fine of 10,000, since it is not
                            claimed by the prosecution. </p></div><div n="43" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> The point on which judgment has to be delivered is whether the accused
                            is guilty of causing his victim's death. The same type of case will also
                            bring <hi rend="italic">conjecture</hi> into play, when, for example,
                            the question in dispute is whether the accused shall be punished with
                            banishment for life or for five years. For the question then is whether
                            he caused his death willingly or not. </p></div><div n="44" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Again, there are questions concerned with numerical quantity which turn
                            on a point of law, such as the questions whether thirty <pb n="v7-9 p.133"/> rewards are due to Thrasybulus, <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">i.e.</hi> for
                                his overthrow of the thirty tyrants; <hi rend="italic">cp.</hi> II.
                                vi. 26. </note> or whether, when two thieves have stolen a sum of
                            money, they are each to be required to refund fourfold or twofold. But
                            in these cases, too, valuation of the act is necessary, and yet the
                            point of law also turns on <hi rend="italic">quality.</hi> </p></div></div><div n="5" type="textpart" subtype="section"><div n="1" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p>V. He who
                            neither denies nor defends his act nor asserts that it was of a
                            different nature from that alleged, must take his stand on some point of
                            law that tells in his favour, a form of defence which generally turns on
                            the legality of the action brought against him. </p></div><div n="2" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> This question is not, however, as some have held, always raised before
                            the commencement of the trial, like the elaborate deliberations of the
                            praetor when there is a doubt as to whether the prosecutor has any legal
                            standing, but frequently comes up during the course of the actual trial.
                            Such discussions fall into two classes, according as the point in
                            dispute arises from an argument advanced by the prosecution or from some
                                <hi rend="italic">prescription</hi>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">cp.</hi> III. vi. 72. </note>
                            (or demurrer) put forward by the defence. There have indeed been some
                            writers who have held that there is a special <hi rend="italic">prescriptive basis;</hi> but <hi rend="italic">prescription</hi> is
                            covered by precisely the same questions that cover all other laws. </p></div><div n="3" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> When the dispute turns on <hi rend="italic">prescription,</hi> there is
                            no need to enquire into the facts of the case itself. For example, a son
                            puts forward a demurrer against his father on the ground that his father
                            has forfeited his civil rights. The only point which has to be decided
                            is whether the demurrer can stand. Still, wherever possible, we should
                            attempt to create a favourable impression in the judge as to the facts
                            of the case as well, since, if this be done, he will be all the more
                            disposed to give an indulgent hearing <pb n="v7-9 p.135"/> to our point
                            of law: for example, in actions taking the form of a wager and arising
                            out of interdicts, <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">sponsio</hi> (= wager) was a form of suit in which
                                the litigant promised to pay a sum of money if he lost his case. The
                                    <hi rend="italic">interdict was</hi> an order issued by the
                                praetor commanding or prohibiting certain action. It occurred
                                chiefly in disputes about property. </note> even though the question
                            is concerned solely with actual possession, the question as to tile
                            right to possession not being raised, it will be desirable to prove not
                            merely that the property was actually in our possession, but that it was
                            ours to possess. </p></div><div n="4" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> On tile other hand, the question more frequently turns on intention.
                            Take the law <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">i.e.</hi> an imaginary law of the schools of rhetoric.
                                </note>
                        <quote>Let a hero choose what reward he will.</quote> I deny
                            that he is entitled to receive whatever he chooses. I cannot put forward
                            any formal demurrer, but none the less I use the intention as against
                            the letter of the law just as I should use a demurrer. In both cases the
                                <hi rend="italic">basis</hi> is the same. </p></div><div n="5" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Moreover every law either gives or takes away punishes or commands,
                            forbids or permits, and involves a dispute either on its own account or
                            on account of another law, while the question which it involves will
                            turn either on the letter or the intention. The letter is either clear
                            or obscure or ambiguous. </p></div><div n="6" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> And what I say with reference to laws will apply equally to wills,
                            agreements, contracts and every form of document; nay, it will apply
                            even to verbal agreements. And since I have classified such cases under
                            four <hi rend="italic">questions</hi> or <hi rend="italic">bases,</hi> I
                            will deal with each in turn. </p></div></div></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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