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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div n="urn:cts:latinLit:phi1002.phi001.perseus-eng2" type="translation" xml:lang="eng"><div n="3" type="textpart" subtype="book"><div n="8" type="textpart" subtype="section"><div n="34" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> On the other hand in <hi rend="italic">deliberative</hi> oratory there
                            will never be any doubt about circumstances wholly in our favour. For
                            there can clearly be no doubt about points against which there is
                            nothing to be said. Consequently as a rule all <hi rend="italic">deliberative</hi> speeches are based simply on comparison, and we
                            must consider what we shall gain and by what means, that it may be
                            possible to form an estimate whether there is more advantage in the aims
                            we pursue or greater disadvantage in the means we employ to that end.
                        </p></div><div n="35" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> A question of expediency may also be concerned with time (for example,
                                <quote>it is expedient, but not now</quote> ) or with place (
                                <quote>it is expedient, but not here</quote> ) or with particular
                            persons ( <quote>it is expedient, but not for us</quote> or <quote>not
                                as against these</quote> ) or with our method of action ( <quote>it
                                is expedient, but not thus</quote> ) or with degree ( <quote>it is
                                expedient, but not to this extent</quote> ). But we have still more
                            often to consider personality with reference to what is becoming, and we
                            must consider our own as well as that of those before whom the question
                            is laid. </p></div><div n="36" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Consequently, though examples are of the greatest value in deliberative
                            speeches, because reference to historical parallels is the quickest
                            method of securing assent, it matters a great deal whose authority is
                            adduced and to whom it is commended. For the minds of those who
                            deliberate on any subject differ from one another and our audience may
                            be of two kinds. </p></div><div n="37" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> For those who ask us for advice are either single individuals or a
                            number, and in both cases the factors may be different. For when advice
                            is asked by a number of persons it makes a considerable difference
                            whether they are <pb n="v1-3 p.499"/> the senate or the people, the
                            citizens of Rome or Fidenae, Greeks or barbarians, and in the case of
                            single individuals, whether we are urging Cato or Gaius Marius to stand
                            for office, whether it is the elder Scipio or Fabius who is deliberating
                            on his plan of campaign. </p></div><div n="38" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Further sex, rank, and age, must be taken into account, though it is
                            character that will make the chief difference. It is an easy task to
                            recommend an honourable course to honourable men, but if we are
                            attempting to keep men of bad character to the paths of virtue, we must
                            take care not to seem to upbraid a way of life unlike our own. </p></div><div n="39" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> The minds of such an audience are not to be moved by discoursing on the
                            nature of virtue, which they ignore, but by praise, by appeals to
                            popular opinion, and if such vanities are of no avail, by demonstration
                            of the advantage that will accrue from such a policy, or more
                            effectively perhaps by pointing out the appalling consequences that will
                            follow the opposite policy. </p></div><div n="40" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> For quite apart from the fact that the minds of unprincipled men are
                            easily swayed by terror, I am not sure that most men's minds are not
                            more easily influenced by fear of evil than by hope of good, for they
                            find it easier to understand what is evil than what is good. </p></div><div n="41" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Sometimes again we urge good men to adopt a somewhat unseemly course,
                            while we advise men of poor character to take a course in which the
                            object is the advantage of those who seek our advice. I realise the
                            thought that will immediately occur to my reader: <quote>Do you then
                                teach that this should be done or think it right?</quote> Cicero
                                <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"> The letter is lost. the
                                argument of the quotation is as follows. The policy <hi rend="italic">which</hi> I advise is honorable, but it would be
                                wrong for me to urge Caesar to follow it, since it is contrary to
                                his interests. </note> might clear me from blame in the matter; for
                            he writes to Brutus in the following terms, after setting forth a number
                            of things that <pb n="v1-3 p.501"/> might honourably be urged on Caesar:
                                <quote> Should I be a good man to advise this? No. For the end of
                                him who gives advice is the advantage of the man to whom he gives
                                it. But, you say, your advice is right. Certainly, but there is not
                                always room for what is right in giving advice. </quote> However,
                            this is a somewhat abstruse question, and does not concern deliberative
                            oratory alone. I shall therefore reserve it for my twelfth and
                            concluding book. <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">Chap.
                                xii.</note>
                     </p></div><div n="43" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> For my part I would not have anything done dishonourably. But for the
                            meantime let us regard these questions as at least belonging to the
                            rhetorical exercises of the schools: for knowledge of evil is necessary
                            to enable us the better to defend what is right. </p></div></div></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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