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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div n="urn:cts:latinLit:phi1002.phi001.perseus-eng2" type="translation" xml:lang="eng"><div n="3" type="textpart" subtype="book"><div n="6" type="textpart" subtype="section"><div n="64" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> But I cannot bear to be thought guilty of concealment of the truth as
                            regards any portion of my views, more especially in a work designed for
                            the profit of young men of sound disposition. For Hippocrates, <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">Epidem</hi> V.
                                14. </note> the great physician, in my opinion took the most
                            honourable course in acknowledging some of <pb n="v1-3 p.443"/> his
                            errors to prevent those who came after from being led astray, while
                            Cicero had no hesitation about condemning some of his earlier works in
                            books which he published later: I refer to his condemnation of his <hi rend="italic">Lucullus</hi> and <hi rend="italic">Catulus</hi>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"> The two books of the first
                                edition of the <hi rend="italic">Academica.</hi>
                        </note> and the
                            books <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">i.e.</hi> the Rhetorica, better known as <hi rend="italic">de
                                    Inventione.</hi>
                        </note> on rhetoric which I have already
                            mentioned. </p></div><div n="65" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Indeed we should have no justification for protracting our studies if we
                            were forbidden to improve upon our original views. Still none of my past
                            teaching was superfluous: for the views which I am now going to produce
                            will be found to be based on the same principles, and consequently no
                            one need be sorry to have attended my lectures, since all that I am now
                            attempting to do is to collect and rearrange my original views so that
                            they may be somewhat more instructive. But I wish to satisfy everybody
                            and not to lay myself open to the accusation that I have allowed a long
                            time to elapse between the formation and publication of my views. </p></div><div n="66" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> I used to follow the majority of authorities in adhering to three <hi rend="italic">rational bases,</hi> the <hi rend="italic">conjectural, qualitative</hi> and <hi rend="italic">definitive,</hi> and to one <hi rend="italic">legal
                                basis.</hi>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">See III. v.
                                4.</note> These were my <hi rend="italic">general bases.</hi> The
                                <hi rend="italic">legal basis</hi> I divided into five <hi rend="italic">species,</hi> dealing with the <hi rend="italic">letter of the law and intention, contradictory laws,</hi> the <hi rend="italic">syllogism, ambiguity</hi> and <hi rend="italic">competence.</hi>
                     </p></div><div n="67" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> It is now clear to me that the fourth of the <hi rend="italic">general
                                bases</hi> may be removed, since the original division which I made
                            into <hi rend="italic">rational</hi> and <hi rend="italic">legal bases
                                is</hi> sufficient. The fourth therefore will not be a <hi rend="italic">basis,</hi> but a kind of <hi rend="italic">question;</hi> if it were not, it would form one of the <hi rend="italic">rational bases.</hi>
                     </p></div><div n="68" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Further I have removed <hi rend="italic">competence</hi> from those
                            which I called <hi rend="italic">species.</hi> For I often asserted, as
                            all who have attended my lectures will remember, and even those
                            discourses which were published against my will <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">See I. Proem. 7.</note> included the <pb n="v1-3 p.445"/> statement, that the <hi rend="italic">basis</hi>
                            concerned with competence hardly ever occurs in any dispute under such
                            circumstances that it cannot more correctly be given some other name,
                            and that consequently some rhetoricians exclude it from their list of
                                <hi rend="italic">bases.</hi>
                     </p></div><div n="69" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> I am, however, well aware that the point of <hi rend="italic">competence</hi> is raised in many cases, since in practically every
                            case in which a party is said to have been ruled out of court through
                            some error of form, questions such as the following arise: whether it
                            was lawful for this person to bring an action, or to bring it against
                            some particular person, or under a given law, or in such a court, or at
                            such a time, and so on </p></div><div n="70" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> But the question of <hi rend="italic">competence</hi> as regards
                            persons, times, legal actions and the rest originates in some
                            pre-existent cause: the question turns therefore not on <hi rend="italic">competence</hi> itself, but on the cause with which
                            the point of <hi rend="italic">competence</hi> originates. <quote> You
                                ought to demand the return of a deposit not before the praetor but
                                before the consuls, as the sum is too large to come under the
                                praetor's jurisdiction. </quote> The question then arises whether
                            the sum is too large, and the dispute is one </p></div><div n="71" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> of fact. <quote> You have no right to bring an action against me, as it
                                is impossible for you to have been appointed to represent the actual
                                plaintiff. </quote> It then has to be decided whether he could have
                            been so appointed. <quote> You ought not to have proceeded by interdict,
                                    <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">sc.</hi> by getting an order for restitution. </note> but
                                to have put in a plea for possession. </quote> The point in doubt is
                            whether the interdict is legal. All these points fall under the head of
                                <hi rend="italic">legal questions.</hi>
                     </p></div><div n="72" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> not even those special pleas, in which questions of <hi rend="italic">competence</hi> make themselves most evident, give rise to the same
                            species of question as those laws under which the action is brought, so
                            that the enquiry is <pb n="v1-3 p.447"/> really concerned with the name
                            of a given act, <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">e. g.</hi> murder or manslaughter: sacrilege or
                                theft. </note> with the letter of the law and its meaning, or with
                            something that requires to be settled by argument? The <hi rend="italic">basis</hi> originates from the question, and in cases of <hi rend="italic">competence</hi> it is not the question concerning
                            which the advocate argues that is involved, but the question on account
                            of which he argues. <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">See §
                                70.</note>
                     </p></div><div n="73" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> An example will make this clearer. <quote>You have killed a
                                man.</quote>
                        <quote>I did not kill him.</quote> The <hi rend="italic">question</hi> is whether he has killed him; the <hi rend="italic">basis</hi> is the <hi rend="italic">conjectural.</hi> But the
                            following case is very different. <quote>I have the right to bring this
                                action.</quote>
                        <quote>You have not the right.</quote> The question
                            is whether he has the right, and it is from this that we derive the <hi rend="italic">basis.</hi> For whether he is allowed the right or not
                            depends on the event, not on the cause itself, and on the decision of
                            the judge, not on that on account of which he gives such a decision.
                        </p></div><div n="74" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> The following is a similar example. <quote>You ought to be
                                punished.</quote>
                        <quote>I ought not.</quote> The judge will decide
                            whether he should be punished, but it is not with this that the <hi rend="italic">question</hi> or the <hi rend="italic">basis</hi> is
                            concerned. Where then does the <hi rend="italic">question</hi> lie?
                                <quote>You ought to be punished, for you have killed a
                                man.</quote>
                        <quote>I did not kill him.</quote> The <hi rend="italic">question</hi> is whether he killed him. <quote>I ought to receive
                                some honour.</quote>
                        <quote>You ought not.</quote> Does this involve
                            a <hi rend="italic">basis?</hi> I think not. <quote>I ought to receive
                                some honour for killing a tyrant.</quote>
                        <quote>You did not kill
                                him.</quote> Here there is a <hi rend="italic">question</hi> and a
                                <hi rend="italic">basis</hi>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">sc.</hi> the conjectural.
                            </note> as well. </p></div><div n="75" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> So, too, <quote>You are not entitled to bring this
                                action,</quote>
                        <quote>I have,</quote> involves no <hi rend="italic">basis.</hi> Where then is it to be found? <quote>You have no right
                                to bring this action, because you have been deprived of civil
                                rights.</quote> In this case the question is whether he has been so
                            deprived, or whether loss of civil rights debars a person from <pb n="v1-3 p.449"/> bringing an action. Here on the other hand we find
                            both <hi rend="italic">questions and bases.</hi>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"> sc. the conjectural or definitive basis and the
                                qualitative. </note> It is therefore to <hi rend="italic">kinds of
                                causes,</hi> not to <hi rend="italic">bases</hi> that the term <hi rend="italic">competence</hi> applies: other <hi rend="italic">kinds
                                of cause</hi> are the <hi rend="italic">comparative</hi> and the <hi rend="italic">recriminatory.</hi>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">See III. x. 3 and 4.</note>
                     </p></div><div n="76" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p><quote>But,</quote> it is urged, <quote> the case 'I have a right,' 'You
                                have not,' is similar to 'You have killed a man,' 'I was justified
                                in so doing.' </quote> I do not deny it, but this does not make it a
                                <hi rend="italic">basis.</hi> For these statements are not
                            propositions until the reasons for them are added. If they were
                            propositions as they stand, the case could not proceed. <quote>Horatius
                                has committed a crime, for he has killed his sister.</quote>
                        <quote>
                                He has not committed a crime, since it was his duty to kill her for
                                mourning the death of an enemy. </quote> The question is whether
                            this was a justifiable reason, and the <hi rend="italic">basis</hi> is
                            one of <hi rend="italic">quality.</hi> So too as regards <hi rend="italic">competence.</hi>
                     </p></div><div n="77" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p><quote> You have no right to disinherit, since a person who has been
                                deprived of civil rights is not allowed to take legal action.
                                </quote><quote>I have the right, since disinheriting is not legal
                                action.</quote><note anchored="true" place="unspecified">Disinheritance could only be effected by legal action.</note> The
                            question here is what is legal action. And we shall arrive at the
                            conclusion that the son's disinheritance is unlawful, by use of the <hi rend="italic">syllogism.</hi>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">See § 15.</note> The case will be similar with
                            all the <hi rend="italic">rational</hi> and <hi rend="italic">legal
                                bases.</hi>
                     </p></div><div n="78" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> I am aware that there have been some who placed <hi rend="italic">competence</hi> among <hi rend="italic">rational bases,</hi> using
                            as illustrations cases such as, <quote>I killed a man under orders from
                                my general,</quote>
                        <quote>I gave the votive offerings in a temple to
                                a tyrant under compulsion,</quote>
                        <quote> I deserted owing to the
                                fact that storms or floods or ill health prevented me from
                                rejoining. </quote> That is to say it was not due to me, but some
                            external cause. </p></div><div n="79" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> From these writers I differ even more widely: for it is not the nature
                            of the <hi rend="italic">legal action</hi> itself which is involved in
                            the question of <hi rend="italic">competence,</hi> but the cause of the
                            act; <pb n="v1-3 p.451"/> and this is the case in almost every defence.
                            Finally he who adopts this line of defence, does not thereby abandon the
                                <hi rend="italic">qualitative basis;</hi> for he states that he
                            himself is free from blame, so that we really should differentiate
                            between two kinds of <hi rend="italic">quality</hi>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"> ( <hi rend="italic">A</hi> ) Absolute, when the
                                deed is shown to be right. ( <hi rend="italic">B</hi> ) Relative,
                                when the act is not defended, but the agent is cleared of the guilt
                                of the act. </note> one of which comes into play when both the
                            accused person and his act are defended, and the other when the accused
                            person alone is defended. </p></div><div n="80" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> We must therefore accept the view of the authorities followed by Cicero,
                                <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">See § 44.</note> to the
                            effect that there are three things on which enquiry is made in every
                            case: we ask <hi rend="italic">whether a thing is, that it is, and of
                                that kind it is.</hi> Nature herself imposes this upon us. For first
                            of all there must be some subject for the question, since we cannot
                            possibly determine <hi rend="italic">what a thing is,</hi> or <hi rend="italic">of what kind it is,</hi> until we have first
                            ascertained <hi rend="italic">whether it is,</hi> and therefore the
                            first question raised is <hi rend="italic">whether it is.</hi> But even
                            when it is clear that a thing <hi rend="italic">is,</hi>
                     </p></div><div n="81" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> it is not immediately obvious <hi rend="italic">what it is.</hi> And
                            when we have decided what it is, there remains the question of its <hi rend="italic">quality.</hi> These three points once ascertained,
                            there is no further question to ask. These heads cover both <hi rend="italic">definite</hi> and <hi rend="italic">indefinite
                                questions.</hi> One or more of them is discussed in every
                            demonstrative, deliberative or forensic theme. </p></div><div n="82" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> These heads again cover all cases in the courts, whether we regard them
                            from the point of view of <hi rend="italic">rational</hi> or <hi rend="italic">legal questions.</hi> For no legal problem can be
                            settled save by the aid of <hi rend="italic">definition, quality</hi>
                            and <hi rend="italic">conjecture.</hi>
                     </p></div><div n="83" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Those, however, who are engaged in instructing the ignorant will find it
                            useful at first to adopt a slightly less rigid method: the road will not
                            be absolutely straight to begin with, but it will be more open and will
                            provide easier going. I would have them therefore learn above all things
                                <pb n="v1-3 p.453"/> that there are four different methods which may
                            be employed in every case, and he who is going to plead should study
                            them as first essentials. For, to begin with the defendant, far the
                            strongest method of self-defence is, if possible, to deny the charge.
                            The second best is when it is possible to reply that the particular act
                            with which you are charged was never committed. The third and most
                            honourable is to maintain that the act was justifiable. If none of these
                            lines of defence are feasible, there remains the last and only hope of
                            safety: if it is impossible either to deny the charge or justify the
                            act, we must evade the charge with the aid of some point of law, making
                            it appear that the action has been brought against us illegally </p></div></div></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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