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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div n="urn:cts:latinLit:phi1002.phi001.perseus-eng2" type="translation" xml:lang="eng"><div n="2" type="textpart" subtype="book"><div n="20" type="textpart" subtype="chapter"><div n="8" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> I should like, however, to consider the point more fully and explicitly
                            by appealing to the actual work of oratory. For how will the orator
                            succeed in panegyric unless he can distinguish between what is
                            honourable and the reverse? How <pb n="v1-3 p.355"/> can he urge a
                            policy, unless he has a clear perception of what is expedient? How can
                            he plead in the law-courts, if he is ignorant of the nature of justice?
                            Again, does not oratory call for courage, since it is often directed
                            against the threats of popular turbulence and frequently runs into peril
                            through incurring the hatred of the great, while sometimes, as for
                            instance in the trial of Milo, the orator may have to speak in the midst
                            of a crowd of armed soldiers? Consequently, if oratory be not a virtue,
                            perfection is beyond its grasp. </p></div><div n="9" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> If, on the other hand, each living thing has its own peculiar virtue, in
                            which it excels the rest or, at any rate, the majority (I may instance
                            the courage of the lion and the swiftness of the horse), it may be
                            regarded as certain that the qualities in which man excels the rest are,
                            above all, reason and powers of speech. Why, therefore, should we not
                            consider that the special virtue of man lies just as much in eloquence
                            as in reason? It will be with justice then that Cicero <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">de Or.</hi>
                                III. xiv. 55. </note> makes Crassus say that <quote>eloquence is one
                                of the highest virtues,</quote> and that Cicero himself calls it a
                            virtue in his letters to Brutus <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">Lost.</note> and in other passages. </p></div><div n="10" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p><quote>But,</quote> it may be urged, <quote> a bad man will at times
                                produce an <hi rend="italic">exordium</hi> or a <hi rend="italic">statement of facts,</hi> and will argue a case in a manner that
                                leaves nothing to be desired. </quote> No doubt; even a robber may
                            fight bravely without courage ceasing to be a virtue; even a wicked
                            slave may bear torture without a groan, and we may still continue to
                            regard endurance of pain as worthy of praise. We can point to many acts
                            which are identical with those of virtue, but spring from other sources.
                            However, what I have said here must suffice, as I have already dealt
                            with the question of the usefulness of oratory. <pb n="v1-3 p.357"/>
                     </p></div></div><div n="21" type="textpart" subtype="chapter"><div n="1" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> As to the material of oratory, some have asserted that it is speech, as
                            for instance Gorgias <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">Gorg.</hi> 449 <hi rend="italic">E.</hi>
                        </note> in
                            the dialogue of Plato. If this view be accepted in the sense that the
                            word <quote>speech</quote> is used of a discourse composed on any
                            subject, then it is not the material, but the work, just as a statue is
                            the work of the sculptor. For speeches like statues require art for
                            their production. If on the other hand we interpret
                                <quote>speech</quote> as indicating the words themselves, they can
                            do nothing unless they are related to facts. Some again hold that the
                            material consists of persuasive arguments. But they form part of the
                            work, are produced by art and require material themselves. </p></div><div n="2" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Some say that political questions provide the material. The mistake made
                            by these lies not in the quality of their opinion but in its limitation.
                            For political questions are material for eloquence but not the only
                            material. </p></div></div></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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