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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div n="urn:cts:latinLit:phi1002.phi001.perseus-eng2" type="translation" xml:lang="eng"><div n="2" type="textpart" subtype="book"><div n="17" type="textpart" subtype="chapter"><div n="42" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Again it is scarcely necessary for me to point out that like other arts
                            it is based on examination and practice. And if logic is an art, as is
                            generally agreed, rhetoric must also be an art, since it differs from
                            logic in <hi rend="italic">species</hi> rather than in <hi rend="italic">genus.</hi> Nor must I omit to point out that where it is possible
                            in any given subject for one man to act without art and another with
                            art, there must necessarily be an art in connexion with that subject, as
                            there must also be in any subject in which the man who has received
                            instruction is the superior of him who has not. </p></div><div n="43" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> But as regards the practice of rhetoric, it is not merely the case that
                            the trained speaker will get the better of the untrained. For even the
                            trained man will prove inferior to one who has received a better
                            training. If this were not so, there would not be so many rhetorical
                            rules, nor would so many great men have come forward to teach them. The
                            truth of this must be acknowledged by everyone, but more especially by
                            us, since we concede the possession of oratory to none save the good
                            man. <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">i.e.</hi> since our ideals are so high. </note>
                     </p></div></div><div n="18" type="textpart" subtype="chapter"><div n="1" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Some arts, however, are based on examination, that is to say on the
                            knowledge and proper appreciation of things, as for instance astronomy,
                                <pb n="v1-3 p.347"/> which demands no action, but is content to
                            understand the subject of its study: such arts are called <hi rend="italic">theoretical.</hi> Others again are concerned with
                            action: this is their end, which is realised in action, so that, the
                            action once performed, nothing more remains to do: these arts we style
                                <hi rend="italic">practical,</hi> and dancing will provide us with
                            an example. </p></div><div n="2" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Thirdly there are others which consist in producing a certain result and
                            achieve their purpose in the completion of a visible task: such we style
                                <hi rend="italic">productive,</hi> and <hi rend="italic">painting</hi> may be quoted as an illustration. In view of these
                            facts we must come to the conclusion that, in the main, rhetoric is
                            concerned with action; for in action it accomplishes that which it is
                            its duty to do. </p></div><div n="3" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> This view is universally accepted, although in my opinion rhetoric draws
                            largely on the two other kinds of art. For it may on occasion be content
                            with the mere examination of a thing. Rhetoric is still in the orator's
                            possession even though he be silent, while if he gives up pleading
                            either designedly or owing to circumstances over which he has no
                            control, he does not therefore cease to be an orator, any more than a
                            doctor ceases to be a doctor when he withdraws from practice. </p></div><div n="4" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Perhaps the highest of all pleasures is that which we derive from
                            private study, and the only circumstances under which the delights of
                            literature are unalloyed are when it withdraws from action, that is to
                            say from toil, and can enjoy the pleasure of self-contemplation. </p></div><div n="5" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> But in the results that the orator obtains by writing speeches or
                            historical narratives, which we may reasonably count as part of the task
                            of oratory, we shall recognise features resembling those of a productive
                            art. Still, if rhetoric is to be regarded as one of these three classes
                            of art, since it is with action that its <pb n="v1-3 p.349"/> practice
                            is chiefly and most frequently concerned, let us call it an active or
                            administrative art, the two terms being identical. </p></div></div><div n="19" type="textpart" subtype="chapter"><div n="1" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> I quite realise that there is a further question as to whether eloquence
                            derives most from nature or from education. This question really lies
                            outside the scope of our inquiry, since the ideal orator must
                            necessarily be the result of a blend of both. But I do regard it as of
                            great importance that we should decide how far there is any real
                            question on this point. </p></div><div n="2" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> For if we make an absolute divorce between the two, nature will still be
                            able to accomplish much without the aid of education, while the latter
                            is valueless without the aid of nature. If, on the other hand, they are
                            blended in equal proportions, I think we shall find that the average
                            orator owes most to nature, while the perfect orator owes more to
                            education. We may take a parallel from agriculture. A thoroughly barren
                            soil will not be improved even by the best cultivation, while good land
                            will yield some useful produce without any cultivation; but in the case
                            of really rich land cultivation will do more for it than its own natural
                            fertility. </p></div><div n="3" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Had Praxiteles attempted to carve a statue out of a millstone, I should
                            have preferred a rough block of Parian marble to any such statue. On the
                            other hand, if the same artist had produced a finished statue from such
                            a block of Parian marble, its artistic value would owe more to his skill
                            than to the material. To conclude, nature is the raw material for
                            education: the one forms, the other is formed. Without material art can
                            do nothing, material without art does possess a certain value, while the
                            perfection of art is better than the best material. <pb n="v1-3 p.351"/>
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