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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div n="urn:cts:latinLit:phi1002.phi001.perseus-eng2" type="translation" xml:lang="eng"><div n="2" type="textpart" subtype="book"><div n="17" type="textpart" subtype="chapter"><div n="38" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p><quote>But,</quote> it is urged, <quote>he does not know whether what he
                                says is true.</quote> Neither do they, who assert that all things
                            derive their origin from fire or water or the four elements or
                            indivisible atoms; nor they who calculate the distances of the stars or
                            the size of the earth and sun. And yet all these call the subject which
                            they teach an art. But if reason makes them seem not merely to hold
                            opinions but, thanks to the cogency of the proofs adduced, to have
                            actual knowledge, reason will do the same service to the orator. </p></div><div n="39" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p><quote>But,</quote> they say, <quote>he does not know whether the cause
                                which he has undertaken is true.</quote> But not even a doctor can
                            tell whether a patient who claims to be suffering from a headache,
                            really is so suffering: but he will treat him on the assumption that his
                            statement is true, and medicine will still be an art. Again what of the
                            fact that rhetoric does not always aim at telling the truth, but always
                            at stating what is probable? The answer is that the orator knows that
                            what he states is no more than probable. </p></div><div n="40" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> My opponents further object that advocates often defend in one case what
                            they have attacked in another. This is not the fault of the art, but of
                            the man. Such are the main points that are urged against rhetoric; there
                            are others as well, but they are of minor importance and drawn from the
                            same sources. <pb n="v1-3 p.345"/> That rhetoric is an art may, however,
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