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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text><body><div n="urn:cts:latinLit:phi0914.phi001.perseus-eng3" type="edition" xml:lang="eng"><div n="9" subtype="book" type="textpart"><div n="8" subtype="chapter" type="textpart"><div n="9" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> should wage a successful war against the Samnites, you may at least deem
							it enough to have witnessed us sent under the yoke and compelled to
							submit to a shameful convention, enough to witness us surrendered, naked
							and in chains, to the enemy, taking upon our heads the whole weight of
							his anger and vengeance! </p></div><div n="10" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> May it be in accordance with your will that the legions of Rome under
							fresh consuls should wage war against the Samnites in the same way in
							which all wars were waged before we were consuls!” </p></div><div n="11" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>When he finished speaking, such admiration and pity were felt for him
							that they could hardly think that it was the same Sp. Postumius who had
							concluded such a disgraceful peace. </p></div><div n="12" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> They viewed with the utmost sadness the prospect of such a man suffering
							at the hands of the enemy such terrible punishment as he was sure to
							meet with, enraged as they would be at the rupture of the peace. </p></div><div n="13" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>The whole House expressed in terms of the highest praise their approval
							of his proposal. They were beginning to vote on the question when two of
							the tribunes of the plebs, L. Livius and Q. Maelius, entered a protest
							which they afterwards withdrew. </p></div><div n="14" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> They argued that the people as a whole would not be discharged from
							their religious obligation by this surrender unless the Samnites were
							placed in the same position of advantage which they held at Caudium.
						</p></div><div n="15" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Further, they said they did not deserve any punishment for having saved
							the Roman army by undertaking to procure peace,<note anchored="true" n="3" resp="ed" place="unspecified">Livy evidently assumes that
								these two tribunes of the plebs were with the army, a most unusual
								arrangement, as they were supposed to be watching over the interests
								of the plebs within the walls of Rome. But the whole strength of
								Rome, i. e., the great majority of the plebeians, were at Caudium,
								so the presence of all the tribunes in the City might not have been
								necessary.</note> and they urged as a final reason that as they, the
							tribunes, were sacrosanct and their persons inviolable they could not be
							surrendered to the enemy or exposed to any violence. </p></div></div><div n="9" subtype="chapter" type="textpart"><div n="1" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>To this Postumius replied: “In the meanwhile, surrender us, whom
							no inviolability protects and whose surrender will violate no man's
							conscience. </p></div><div n="2" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Afterwards you will surrender those “sacrosanct” gentlemen
							also as soon as their year of office expires, but if you take my advice
							you will see that before they are surrendered they are scourged in the
							Forum by way of paying interest for a punishment that will have been
							delayed. </p></div><div n="3" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Why, who is so ignorant of fetial law as not to see that these men are
							saying this, not because it represents the fact but to prevent their
							being surrendered? </p></div><div n="4" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> I do not deny, senators, that where the pledged words of men are held to
							possess a binding force only second to the sanctions of religion, then
							such undertakings as we have given are as sacred as formal treaties. But
							I do say that without the express order of the people nothing can be
							ratified which can bind the people. </p></div><div n="5" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Suppose the Samnites, in the same spirit of insolent pride in which they
							extorted this capitulation from us, had compelled us to recite the
							formula for the surrender of cities,<note anchored="true" n="4" resp="ed" place="unspecified">For this formula, see Vol. I. p. 45.</note>
							would you say, tribunes, that the Roman people was surrendered and that
							this City with its shrines and temples, its territory, and its waters
							had become the property of the Samnites? I say no more about surrender,
							because what we are considering is the pledge we gave in the
							capitulation. </p></div></div></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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