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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text><body><div type="edition" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg2022.tlg011.opp-grc1" xml:lang="grc"><div type="textpart" subtype="chapter" n="16"><p>Οἵ τε παρ’ Ἑλλήνων σεβόμενοι θεοί τε καὶ
δαίμονες, ὡς αὐτοὶ λέγουσιν, οὐδὲν ἡμῶν δέονται κατηγόρων,
ἀλλὰ τοῖς σφῶν αὐτῶν ἁλίσκονται θεολόγοις, ὡς
μὲν ἐμπαθεῖς, ὡς δὲ στασιώδεις, ὅσων δὲ κακῶν γέμοντες
καὶ μεταβολῶν, καὶ οὐ πρὸς ἀλλήλους μόνον ἀλλὰ καὶ
<lb n="15"/> πρὸς τὰς πρώτας αἰτίας ἀντιθέτως ἔχοντες, οὓς δὴ
᾿Ωκεανούς, καὶ Τηθύας, καὶ Φάνητας, καὶ οὐκ οἶδα οὕς
<note type="footnote">4 καθαρῶς μένοντες οἱ αὐτοὶ df || 7 ἄνω) + καὶ bdf 16. 15 ovs] + καὶ
e || 16 ὠκεανοὺς] + τε b</note>
<note type="footnote">2, οὐ σύνθετοι μόνον] We are
not only composite beings, made up
of body and soul, and each of these
factors again resoluble into different
component parts ; we are beings of
opposite characteristics, — not only
as compared with each other, but as
compared with our own fluctuating
and inconstant selves.</note>
<note type="footnote">5. μὴ ὅτι] Cp. i 4.</note>
<note type="footnote">6. ῥέοντες] Cp. § 10 ῥευστῆς.</note>
<note type="footnote">ib. καὶ ἄγγελοι] They, though
comparatively ἁπλοῖ, not σύνθετοι,
and though less liable than we are
to change and inconsistency, are yet
not one, like the Persons of the
Godhead. They are independent
of each other, and vary in powers
and in character.</note>
<note type="footnote">7. φύσις ἢ ἄνω μετὰ τ. τ.] Cp.
ii 31 ταῖς πρώταις μετὰ θεὸν φύσεσι.
The whole section should be compared
with this passage.</note>
<note type="footnote">16. The divisions among the
many ‘Gods’ of the Greeks are
notorious. They are at shameful
variance. Their empire is partitioned
out. Not so with our God.
Each of the three Persons is absolutely
one with Himself and no less
absolutely one with the others.</note>
<note type="footnote">12. ἁλίσκονται] Cp. ἑ 13 ἁλῶναι,
‘to be convicted. ’</note>
<note type="footnote">ib. θεολόγοις] Cp. ii 4. The
ref. is, no doubt, esp. to Plato’s
denuntiation of the poets in Rep. ii,
iii.</note>
<note type="footnote">15. οὓς δὴ ᾿Ωκ.] The ‘First
Cayses,’ i.e. the original
against which the others turn, are
called Oceanus, and Tethys, and so
on. See Horn. Il. xiv 201.</note>
<note type="footnote">16. φάνητας] “A mystic
in the Orphic rites, representing the
first principle of the world, cf. Orph.
Arg. 15 ” (Lidd. and Sc).</note>

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τινας ὀνομάζουσι· καὶ τελευταῖόν τινα θεὸν μισότεκνον
διὰ φιλαρχίαν, πάντας καταπίνοντα τοὺς ἄλλους ἐξ
ἀπληστίας, ἵνα γένηται πάντων ἀνδρῶν τε θεῶν τε πατήρ,
δυστυχῶς ἐσθιομένων καὶ ἐμουμένων. εἰ δὲ ταῦτα μῦθοι
καὶ ὑπόνοιαί τινες, ὡς αὐτοί φασι, τὸ αἰσχρὸν τοῦ λόγου <lb n="5"/>
διαδιδράσκοντες, τί φήσουσι πρὸς τό, Τριχθὰ δὲ πάντα
δέδασται, καὶ τὸ ἄλλον ἄλλῳ τινὶ τῶν ὄντων ἐπιστατεῖν,
διῃρημένους καὶ ταῖς ὕλαις καὶ τοῖς ἀξιώμασι; τὸ δὲ
ἡμέτερον οὐ τοιοῦτον· οὐδὲ αὕτη μερὶς τῷ Ἰακώβ, φησιν
ὁ ἐμὸς θεολόγος· ἀλλὰ τὸ ἓν ἕκαστον αὐτῶν ἔχει πρὸς τὸ <lb n="10"/>
συγκείμενον οὐχ ἧττον ἢ πρὸς ἑαυτό, τῷ ταὐτῷ τῆς οὐσίας
καὶ τῆς δυνάμεως. καὶ οὗτος ὁ τῆς ἑνώσεως λόγος, ὅσον
ἐφ᾿ οἷς ἡμεῖς κατειλήφαμεν. εἰ μὲν οὖν οὗτος ἰσχυρὸς
ὁ λόγος, τῷ θεῷ χάρις τῆς θεωρίας· εἰ δὲ μή, ζητῶμεν
τὸν ἰσχυρότερον.</p><lb n="15"/></div><div type="textpart" subtype="chapter" n="17"><p>Τοὺς δὲ σοὺς λόγους οὐκ οἶδα πότερον παίζοντος
εἶναι φήσομεν, ἢ σπουδάζοντος, οἷς ἀναιρεῖς ἡμῶν τὴν
ἕνωσιν. τίς γὰρ δὴ καὶ ὁ λόγος ; τὰ ὁμοούσια συναριθμεῖταl,
φησι· συναρίθμησιν λέγων τὴν εἰς ἀριθμὸν ἕνα
<note type="footnote">4 υπονοια (sic) και μυθοι τινες df || 13 εφ οις] εν οις d || ισχυρος ουτος df
17. 17 φησομεν] φησαιμεν b || 19 φησι] φης f</note>
<note type="footnote">1. θεὸν μισότεκνον] Saturn.</note>
<note type="footnote">5. ὑπόνοιαί τινες] ‘a sort of
allegoriest.’</note>
<note type="footnote">6. τριχθὰ δὲ πάντα δ.] Hom.
II. xv 189.</note>
<note type="footnote">8. ταῖς ὕλαις κ. τ. ἀξ.] ‘having
separate elements under them, and
holding different ranks.’</note>
<note type="footnote">ib. τὸ ἡμέτερον] ‘what we believe.’</note>
<note type="footnote">9. μερὶς τῷ Ἰακώβ] Jer. x 16.</note>
<note type="footnote">10. τὸ ἓν ἕκαστον κτλ] ‘but each
of the Three Persons is as entirely
one with Those with whom He is
connected, as He is with Himself,
because of the identity of essence and
of power that is between Them.’</note>
<note type="footnote">14. χάρις τῆς θεωρίας] ‘thanks
be to God for the line of thought.’</note>
<note type="footnote">17. It is said that things of the
same nature are numbered together,
so that if the three Persons are consubstantial
they must be three Gods.
For fear of saying this, you deny
the Godhead of two of them, which
is like cutting your throat for fear
of dying.</note>
<note type="footnote">18. τὰ ὀμ. συναριθμεῖται] Things
of the same nature, like men, trees,
or horses, come under a number	
which sums them up, as three trees,
four horses, five men ; you cannot,
acc. to the disputant, apply them to
heterogeneous things, and class a
tree, a horse, and a man together
as being three. Cp. Bas. de Sp. S.
17.</note>

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συναίρεσιν· οὐ συναριθμεῖται δὲ τὰ μὴ ὁμοούσια· ὥστε
ὑμεῖς μὲν οὐ φεύξεσθε τὸ τρεῖς λέγειν θεοὺς κατὰ τὸν
λόγον τοῦτον· ἡμῖν δὲ οὐδὲ εἷς κίνδυνος· οὐ γὰρ ὁμοούσια
λέγομεν. σὺ μὲν οὖν ἀπήλλαξας σεαυτὸν πραγμάτων μιᾷ
<lb n="5"/> φωνῇ, καὶ τὴν κακὴν νίκην νενίκηκας· ὅμοιόν τι ποιήσας
τοῖς διὰ θανάτου φόβον ἀπαγχομένοις. ἵνα γὰρ μὴ κάμῃς
τῇ μοναρχίᾳ συνιστάμενος, ἠρνήσω θεότητα, καὶ προδέδωκας
τοῖς ἐχθροῖς τὸ ζητούμενον. ἐγὼ δὲ κἄν τι δέῃ καμεῖν, οὐ
προήσομαι τὸ προσκυνούμενον. ἐνταῦθα δὲ οὐδὲ ὁρῶ τίς
<lb n="10"/> ο πόνος.</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="chapter" n="18"><p>Συναριθμεῖται, φής, τὰ ὁμοούσια· τὰ δὲ μὴ οὕτως
ἔχοντα μοναδικὴν ἔχει τὴν δήλωσιν. πόθεν σοι τοῦτο, καὶ
παρὰ τίνων δουματιστῶν καὶ μυθολόγων ; ἢ ἀγνοεῖς, ὅτι
πᾶς ἀριθμὸς τῆς ποσότητος τῶν ὕπο κε ὑποκειμένων μέν ὢν ἐστὶ δηλωτικός,
<lb n="15"/> οὐ τῆς φύσεως τῶν πραγμάτων ; ἐγὼ δὲ οὕτως
ἀρχαίως ἔχω, μᾶλλον δὲ ἀμαθῶς, ὥστε τρία μὲν ὀνομάζω
τὰ τοσαῦτα τῷ ἀριθμῷ, κἂν διέστηκε τὴν φύσιν· ἓν δέ, καὶ
ἕν, καὶ ἕν, ἄλλως τὰς τοσαύτας μονάδας, κἂν τῇ οὐσία
<note type="footnote">1 λεγειν τρεῖς df. 18. 11 μὴ] οὐχ bdf || 13 καὶ] η b</note>
<note type="footnote">1. ὥστε ὑμεῖς μέν] These are
still the words of the opponent,
down to λέγομεν. On the principle
just laid down, he says, if the
Father, the Son, and the Spirit can
be called three at all, it can only be
as three Gods ; that is, your doctrine
is incurably tritheistic Ours
is not, he adds ; for we deny the
identity of essence, and make no
at bringing those beings
together under a number.</note>
<note type="footnote">4. πραγμάτων] ‘of trouble’; not
τῶν πρ., ‘the facts.’</note>
<note type="footnote">7. τῆ μ. συνιστάμενος] ‘to save
yourself labour in maintaining
monotheism you have denied the
Godhead, and abandoned to the
enemy the very thing which you
are seeking to establish.’</note>
<note type="footnote">18. I do not know zvhere you get
your rule from. To To me, a number
only says how many things there
are, and tells anothing about their
nature. Certainly in the Bible,
things of different natures are
summed up under a common number.</note>
<note type="footnote">12. μοναδικὴν ἔχει τ. δ.] ‘can only
be designated singly’; e.g. a
and a man, and a tree.</note>
<note type="footnote">13. δόγμ’. καὶ μυθ.] a kind of
hendiadys, ‘makers of fabidous deattempt
crees.’</note>
<note type="footnote">14. τῆς πόσ’. τῶν ὑποκ.] ‘denotes
the quantity, or sum, of the
and not their nature.’</note>
<note type="footnote">15. οὕτως ἀρχ’. ἔχω] ‘am am old-
fashioned enough ’ to say ‘three’
when there are three things, even
when they are not of the same
kind, and to name them singly, if
I choose, even when they
thinking only of their number and
not of their nature.</note>
<note type="footnote">18. ἄλλως] carries on the irony of
ἀρχαίως, ἀμαθῶς. It is used in the
idiomatic sense of ‘idlt,’ ‘vainly.’</note>

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συνάπτωνται, οὐ πρὸς τὰ πράγματα μᾶλλον ἀφορῶν, ἢ τὸ
πόσον τῶν πραγμάτων, καθ’ ὧν ἡ ἀρίθμησις. ἐπεὶ δὲ λίαν
περιέχῃ τοῦ γράμματος, καίτοι γε πολεμῶν τῷ γράμματι,
ἐκεῖθέν μοι λάβε τὰς ἀποδείξεις. τρία ἐν ταῖς παροιμίαις
ἐστίν, ἃ εὐόδως πορεύεται, λέων, καὶ τράγος, καὶ ἁλεκτρυών· <lb n="5"/>
καὶ βασιλεὺς δημηγορῶν ἐν ἔθνει τὸ τέταρτον· ἵνα μὴ
λέγω τὰς ἄλλας ἐκεῖ τετράδας ἀριθμουμένας, τῆ φύσει δὲ
διῃρημένας. καὶ δύο τῷ Μωυσεῖ χερουβὶμ εὑρίσκω μοναδικῶς
ἀριθμούμενα. πῶς οὖν ἢ ἐκεῖνα τρία, κατὰ τὴν σὴν
τεχνολογίαν, τοσοῦτον ἀλλήλων ἀπερρηγμένα ταῖς φύσεσιν· <lb n="10"/>
ἢ ταῦτα μοναδικά, τοσοῦτον ἀλλήλοις ὁμοφυῆ καὶ συγκείμενα ;
εἰ γὰρ λέγοιμι θεὸν καὶ μαμωνᾶν δύο κυρίους εἰς ἓν
ἀριθμουμένους, τοσούτῳ μακρὰν ὄντας ἀλλήλων, τάχα ἃν
καὶ μᾶλλον γελασθείην τῆς συναριθμήσεως.</p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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