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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg024.perseus-eng5" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg024.perseus-eng5:" n="21"><p><label>Buyer</label> Come, my friend, and tell me, your purchaser, what sort of person you are, and, to begin
with, whether it is not an affliction to you to be
sold and in slavery.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> Not at all; for those things are not
under our control, and what is not under our control is therefore indifferent.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> I don't understand just what you mean.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> What, do you not understand that
in such matters some things are preferred and
some again rejected?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> I don't understand even yet.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> Naturally, for you are not accustomed to our terminology, nor have you the perceptive imagination. But the virtuous man, he
who has mastered logical theory, knows not only


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these things, but also the nature of an accident
and a secondary accident, and how much difference there is between them.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> In the name of wisdom, kindly take the
trouble to tell me this, too: what accidents and
secondary accidents are. I am indescribably impressed by the roll of the words.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> No trouble at all. If a lame man,
stumbling with that lame foot itself against a
stone gets unexpectedly hurt, this man's lameness is evidently a primary accident to which
he adds a secondary accident in the way of the
wound.</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg024.perseus-eng5:" n="22"><p><label>Buyer</label> What else, now, do you claim to know?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> How clever!
</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> The meshes of argument wherewith
I trip up my interlocutors and block their passage
and reduce them to silence by actually muzzling
them. The name of this faculty is the famous
syllogism.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> By Herkules, it is an irresistible, mighty
weapon, from your description.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> I will give you a specimen. Have
you a child?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Certainly.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> If a crocodile should manage to
snatch it, finding it wandering too near the river,
and if, then, he should promise to restore it if you
could tell him truly whether he had determined


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to give it back or not, what would you tell him
he had in mind?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> That is a difficult question, for I do not
see which answer would be the more likely to get
the child back. But do you, in Heaven's name,
answer for me, and save my child before he eats
him.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> Never fear, I will teach you other
things still more surprising.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> What sort of things?</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> The Reaper, the Master, and, above
all, the Elektra, and the Veiled.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> What do you mean by the "Veiled," or
the "Elektra ?"</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> Elektra is that famous person, the
daughter of Agamemnon, who at the same moment knows a thing and does not know it; for
when Orestes stands beside her, still incognito,
she knows, indeed, that Orestes is her brother,
but that this is Orestes she does not know. And
I will tell you about the "Veiled," too, a most extraordinary figure. Answer me, do you know your
father?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Yes.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> Well, then, if I present some veiled
person to you and ask whether you know him,
what would you say?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> That I do not, of course.</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg024.perseus-eng5:" n="23"><p><label>Chrysippos</label> And yet this very person was your


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father! Therefore, if you do not know him, it is
plain you do not know your father.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Not at all, for if I unveil him I shall
know the truth. However, what is the object of
your philosophy? What do you do when you
have reached the pinnacle of virtue?</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> I shall then be occupied with the
first things in the order of nature-riches, I mean,
and health, and such like things. But before
that one must needs toil much, sharpening his
sight on books in fine print, taking notes, and filling himself with solecisms aand uncouth phrases.
Most important of all, it is not permitted to become a sage until you have drunk hellebore three
times in succession.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> This is all very noble in you and extremely manly. But what are we to say when a
man, who has already drunk the hellebore and arrived at virtue, turns money - lender at fifty per
cent., for I see this belongs to your principles too?</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> By all means. The sage is the only
man fit to lend money; for since ratiocination
is his peculiar function, and calculating ratios and
per cents. seems to be the next thing to ratiocinating, it follows from these premises that the
special business of the good man alone is to get
not only simple interest like other people, but
compound. For you know there are two sorts of
interest, one sort coming first, and the other second,


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as it were the offspring of the first, and of
course you see what the syllogism has to say
about it if he gets the simple interest, he will
also get the compound, but he does get the simple interest, therefore he will also get the compound.</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg024.perseus-eng5:" n="24"><p><label>Buyer</label> And must we say the same of the fees
you take for imparting your wisdom to young
men? Is it clear that the good man alone will
make money out of his virtue?</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> You grasp the idea. It is not on
my own account that I take fees, but for the good
of the giver himself. For since one party in a
transaction must give and the other receive, I
train myself to receive and my pupil to give.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> It ought to be the other way about.
The young man ought to receive, and you, who
alone are rich, to give out.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> You are chaffing, fellow; but be
careful lest I let fly at you with the apodeiktic
syllogism.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> What are the frightful effects of the
weapon?</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> Embarrassment, silence, confusion
of mind. </p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg024.perseus-eng5:" n="25"><p>If you like, I will give you an extreme
example, and prove in a twinkling that you are a
stone.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> How a stone? You do not look to me
like Perseus with the Gorgon's head, my friend.


<pb n="p.78"/></p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> This is the way. Is the stone a
body?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Yes.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> Well, is not a living creature a
body?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Yes.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> But you are a living creature?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Certainly, I have that appearance.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> Then you are a stone, for you are
a body.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Heaven forbid! In Zeus' name, release
me and make me a man again!</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> That is easy; be a man once more.
For, tell me, is every body a living creature?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> No.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> Well, is a stone a living creature?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> No.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> But you are a body?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Yes.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> And being a body you are a living
creature?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Yes.</p><p><label>Chrysippos</label> Then you are not a stone, because
you are a living creature.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Thank you. My legs were getting lifeless already and stiff, like Niobe's. But I am
certainly going to buy you. What is his price?</p><p><label>Hermes</label> Two hundred and forty dollars.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Here it is.


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</p><p><label>Hermes</label> Are you the sole purchaser ?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Dear me, no. All these people are
with me.</p><p><label>Hermes</label> There are plenty of them, and strong
in the shoulder. They are fit for "the Mower."</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg024.perseus-eng5:" n="26"><p><label>Zeus</label> Don't waste time. Call up another, the
Peripatetic.</p><p><label>Hermes</label> You are the man I want-the handsome, the rich one.
Come now, buy the most intelligent life-the
one whose forte is omniscience!</p><p><label>Buyer</label> What sort of a person is he?</p><p><label>Hermes</label> He leads a reasonable, well-ordered
life, never doing either too much or too little.
Most important of all, he is double.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> What do you mean?</p><p><label>Hermes</label> It seems that his visible man is one
person and his inward man another; so, if you
buy him, remember to call the one "exoteric,"
the other "esoteric."</p><p><label>Buyer</label> What does he know best?</p><p><label>Hermes</label> That there are three classes of goods,
relating to the soul, the body, and to externals.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> He thinks like a human being. What
is his price?</p><p><label>Hermes</label> Three hundred and seventy-five dollars.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> That is high.


<pb n="p.80"/></p><p><label>Hermes</label> No, my good fellow, for he seems to
have some money himself, so you can't buy him
too quickly. Moreover, you will presently learn
from him how long the gnat lives, how far down
the sea is lighted by the sun, and the nature of
the soul of the oyster.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Herakles! there's precision for you.</p><p><label>Hermes</label> What would you say if you should
hear things a great deal shrewder than these—
how man is a laughing animal, but the ass neither
a laughing, nor a house-building, nor a seafaring
animal?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Edifying and profitable knowledge! I
will take him for four hundred dollars.</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg024.perseus-eng5:" n="27"><p><label>Hermes</label> Done.</p><p><label>Zeus</label> Whom have we still left?</p><p><label>Hermes</label> The sceptic here. Come forward,
Pyrrhias, and be published as fast as you can.
Most of the people have already stolen away, and
there will be few buyers. All the same, who wants
this fellow, too?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> I do. But first tell me, what is your
line of knowledge?</p><p><label>Philosopher</label> Nothing.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> What do you mean by that?</p><p><label>Philosopher</label> That in my opinion nothing at all
exists.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Then are we nobody, too?</p><p><label>Philosopher</label> I don't even know that.


<pb n="p.81"/></p><p><label>Buyer</label> Nor whether you happen to be somebody, either?</p><p><label>Philosopher</label> I am still more ignorant of that,
by a good deal.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> What an uncertainty! But, tell me,
what do you want with these balances?</p><p><label>Philosopher</label> I weigh arguments in them and
get them even, and when I see them exactly equal
and of the same weight, then I am ignorant which
is the truer.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> What else are you clever at?</p><p><label>Philosopher</label> Everything, except chasing a runaway slave.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Why can't you do that?</p><p><label>Philosopher</label> Because, good sir, I never appresee.
hend.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Of course. You do seem to be a slow,
dull person. But what is the aim of your science?</p><p><label>Philosopher</label> Ignorance; neither to hear nor to apprehend.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> You mean, then, to be blind and deaf?</p><p><label>Philosopher</label> Yes, and incapable of judgment
and sensation, and, in a word, the double of an
earthworm.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> I must buy you for that. How much
do you say
he is worth?</p><p><label>Hermes</label> Twenty dollars.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Here it is. What have you to say, fellow? Have I bought you?



<pb n="p.82"/></p><p><label>Philosopher</label> Doubtful.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> Not at all. I have purchased you and
paid the money.</p><p><label>Philosopher</label> I suspend my judgment about it
and consider.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> You will follow me, as my slave should.</p><p><label>Philosopher</label> Who knows whether you are telling the truth?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> The salesman and the eighteen dollars
and the by-standers.</p><p><label>Philosopher</label> Are there, then, any standing by?</p><p><label>Buyer</label> I will clap you into the mill in a moment, and persuade you by a vicious argument
that I am your master.</p><p><label>Philosopher</label> Suspend your judgment about
that.</p><p><label>Buyer</label> No, by Heaven, I have formed my opinion already!</p><p><label>Hermes</label> Here, stop your resistance and follow
your purchaser.
We will summon you again to-morrow, for we
are going to put up the lives of the private citizens and artisans and tradesfolk.


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