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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg023.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg023.perseus-eng2" subtype="section" n="9"><p>
Tell
me,

<cit><quote><l>Who is the other man yonder, the haughty one?</l></quote><bibl>Iliad3, 226 served as a model for this line also.</bibl></cit>

Not a Greek, it seems, from his dress at least.
</p><p><label>HERMES</label>
That is Cyrus, Charon, the son of Cambyses, who
has already transferred to the Persians the empire
that once belonged to the Medes. Moreover, he
recently conquered the Assyrians and brought Babylon to terms, and now he appears to be meditating a
campaign against Lydia, with the idea of overthrowing Croesus and ruling the world.
</p><p><label>CHARON</label>
And Croesus, where is he ?
</p><p><label>HERMES</label>
Look over there towards the great acropolis with
the triple wall. That is Sardis, and now you see
Croesus himself sitting on a golden throne, talking
with Solon of Athens. Would you like to listen to
what they are saying ?<note xml:lang="eng" n="v.2.p.415.n.1">The conversation that follows is based on Herodotus 1.29-33.</note>
<label>CHARON</label>
By all means.

</p></div><div type="textpart" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg023.perseus-eng2" subtype="section" n="10"><p><label>CROESUS</label>
My friend from Athens, as you have seen my
riches, my treasuries, all the bullion that I have and
the rest of my splendor, tell me whom do you
consider the most fortunate man in the world ?
</p><p><label>CHARON</label>
What will Solon say to that?


<pb n="v.2.p.417"/>

<label>HERMES</label>
Never fear ; nothing ignoble, Charon.
</p><p><label>SOLON</label>
Fortunate men are few, Croesus, but I consider
that of all the men I know, the most fortunate are
Cleobis and Biton, the sons of the priestess at Argos,
who died together the other day when they had
harnessed themselves and drawn their mother to the
temple on the wagon.<note xml:lang="eng" n="v.2.p.417.n.1">In Herodotus Tellus gets the first place.</note>
<label>CROESUS </label>.
Very well, let them have the first rank in good
fortune. But who would be the second? :
</p><p><label>SOLON</label>
Tellus of Athens, who lived happily and died for
his country.
</p><p><label>CROESUS</label>
But what about me, knave? Don’t you think I
am fortunate ?
</p><p><label>SOLON</label>
I do not know, Croesus, and shall not until you
come to the close of your life. Death is a sure test
in such matters, that and a fortunate life right up to
the end.
</p><p><label>CHARON</label>
Thank you kindly, Solon, for not forgetting us,<note xml:lang="eng" n="v.2.p.417.n.2">Himself and Pluto.</note>
but demanding the decision of such matters to be
made right at the ferry.

</p></div><div type="textpart" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg023.perseus-eng2" subtype="section" n="11"><p>

But who are those men
whom Croesus is sending out, and what are they
carrying on their shoulders ?<note xml:lang="eng" n="v.2.p.417.n.3">Compare Herodotus i. 50 ff. The conversation between Solon and Croesus on the subject of the ingots is Lucian’s own contribution.</note>
<pb n="v.2.p.419"/>

<label>HERMES</label>
He is making an offering of golden ingots to Apollo
at Delphi to pay for the prophecies which will bring
him to grief a little later on. The man is monstrously daft on divination.
</p><p><label>CHARON</label>
Is that gold, the bright substance that shines, the
pale yellow substance with a cast of red? This is
the first time that I have seen it, though I am always
hearing of it.
</p><p><label>HERMES</label>
That is it, Charon, the name that they sing of and
fight for.
</p><p><label>CHARON</label>
Really I don’t see what good there is about it,
except perhaps for one thing, that its bearers find it
heavy.
</p><p><label>HERMES</label>
You do not know how many wars there have been
on account of it, how many plots, perjuries, murders,
imprisonments, trading ventures, and enslavements.
</p><p><label>CHARON</label>
On account of this substance, not much different
from bronze? I know bronze, for, as you are aware,
I collect an obol from everyone who makes the
downward journey.
</p><p><label>HERMES</label>
Yes, but bronze is plentiful, so that they do not
prize it very highly, while this is dug up by the
miners at a great depth in small quantities. It
comes from the earth, however, like lead and the
rest of the metals.


<pb n="v.2.p.421"/>

<label>CHARON</label>
Men are terribly stupid, by what you say, since
they have such a passion for a yellow, heavy
substance.
</p><p><label>HERMES</label>
Well, at any rate Solon yonder does not seem to
love it, Charon, as you see, for he is laughing at
Croesus and his barbarian boastfulness, and to my
mind he wants to ask him a question. Let us listen,
then.

</p></div><div type="textpart" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg023.perseus-eng2" subtype="section" n="12"><p><label>SOLON</label>
Tell me, Croesus, do you really think that Apollo
has any need of these ingots?
</p><p><label>CROE</label>sUS
Good Heavens, yes! He has nothing to match
them among the votive offerings at Delphi.
</p><p><label>SOLON</label>
Then you expect to make the god happy if he adds
ingots of gold to the rest of his possessions ?
</p><p><label>CROESUS</label>
Why not?
</p><p><label>SOLON</label>
They are very poor in Heaven from what you say,
since they have to send and get gold from Lydia
if they want it.
</p><p><label>CROESUS</label>
Why, where else can there be as much gold as
there is in our country ?
</p><p><label>SOLON</label>
Tell me, is iron produced in Lydia ?
</p><p><label>CROESUS</label>
Not to any great extent.

<pb n="v.2.p.423"/>

<label>SOLON</label>
Then you are poor in the better metal.
</p><p><label>CROESUS</label>
In what way is iron better than gold ?
</p><p><label>SOLON</label>
If you will answer my questions without getting
angry, you will find out.
</p><p><label>CROESUS</label>
Ask them, Solon.
</p><p><label>SOLON</label>
Who is the better man, the one who saves a life or
the one who is saved by him ?
</p><p><label>CROESUS</label>
The one who saves a life of course.
</p><p><label>SOLON</label>
Then if Cyrus attacks the Lydians, as rumour has
it that he will, shall you get swords of gold made
for your army, or will iron be necessary in that case?
</p><p><label>CROESUS</label>
Iron, certainly.
</p><p><label>SOLON</label>
Yes, and if you should not provide iron, your gold
would go off to Persia in captivity.
</p><p><label>CROESUS</label>
Don’t speak of such a thing, man!
</p><p><label>SOLON</label>
I pray it may not turn out that way; but you
clearly admit that iron is better than gold.
</p><p><label>CROESUS</label>
Then would you have me offer ingots of iron to
the god and call the gold back again ?

<pb n="v.2.p.425"/>

<label>SOLON</label>
He will have no need of iron either, not he!
Whether you offer bronze or gold, your offering will
be a boon and a blessing to ethers than he—to the
Phocians or the Boeotians or the Delphians themselves, or else to some tyrant or freebooter; but the
god takes little interest in your gold-work.
</p><p><label>CROESUS</label>
You are always at war with my wealth and
begrudge me it.
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