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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng4" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng4:" n="41"><p><label>Zeus</label> Goodness me, what a shout, Gods! they are all cheering Damis. And our man seems posed; he is frightened and trembles; he is going to throw up the sponge, I am certain of it; he looks round for a gap to get away through.</p><p><label>Timocles</label> And will you scout Euripides too, then? Again and again be brings Gods on the stage, and shows them upholding virtue in the Heroes, but chastising wickedness and impiety (like yours).

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</p><p><label>Damis</label> My noble philosopher, if that is how the tragedians have convinced you, you have only two alternatives: you must suppose that divinity is temporarily lodged either in the actor—a Polus, an Aristodemus, a Satyrus—, or else in the actual masks, buskins, long tunics, cloaks, gloves, stomachers, padding, and ornamental paraphernalia in general of tragedy—a manifest absurdity; for when Euripides can speak bis own sentiments unfettered by dramatic necessity, observe the freedom of his remarks:

<l>Dost see this aether stretching infinite,</l>
<l>And girdling earth with close yet soft embrace?</l>
<l>That reckon thou thy Zeus, that name thy God.</l>

And again,

<l>Zeus, whateer Zeus may be (for, save by hearsay,</l>
<l>I know not)—; and there is more of the same sort.</l>

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng4:" n="42"><p><label>Timocles</label> Well, but all men—ay, all nations—have acknowledged and féted Gods 3 was it all delusion?</p><p><label>Damis</label> Thank you; a timely reminder 3 national observances show better than anything else how vague religious theory is. Confusion is endless, and beliefs as many as believers. Scythia makes offerings to a scimetar, Thrace to the Samian runaway Zamolxis,
Phrygia to a Month-God, Ethiopia to a Day-Goddess, Cyllene to Phales, Assyria to a dove, Persia to fire, Egypt to water. In Egypt, though, besides the universal worship of water, Mempbis has a private cult of the ox, Pelusium of the onion, other cities of the ibis or the crocodile, others again of baboon, cat, or monkey. Nay, the very villages have their specialities: one deifies the right shoulder, and another across the river the left; one a balf skull, another an earthenware bowl or platter. Come, my fine fellow, ts tt not all ridiculous?</p><p><label>Momus</label> What did I tell you, Gods? All this was sure to come out and be carefully overhauled.

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Zeus. You did, Momus, and your strictures were justified; if once we come safe out of this present peril, I will try to introduce reforms.

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng4:" n="43"><p><label>Timocles</label> Infidel! where do you find the source of oracles and prophecies, if not in the Gods and their Providence?</p><p><label>Damis</label> About oracles, friend, the less said the better; I shall ask you to choose your instances, you see. Will Apollo's answer to the Lydian suit you? That was as symmetrical as a double-edged knife; or say, it faced both ways, like those Hermae which are made double, alike whether you look at front or back. Consider; will Croesus’s passage of the Halys destroy bis own realm, or Cyruss? Yet the wretched Sardian paid a long price for bis ambidextrous hexameter.</p><p><label>Momus</label> The man is realizing just my worst apprehensions,
Where is our handsome musician now? Ah, there you are; go down and plead your own cause against him.</p><p><label>Zeus</label> Hush, Momus; you are murdering our feelings; it is no time for recrimination.

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng4:" n="44"><p><label>Timocles</label> Have a care, Damis; this is sacrilege, no less; what you say amounts to razing the temples and upsetting the altars.</p><p><label>Damis</label> Ob, not all the altars; what harm do they do, so long as incense and perfume is the worst of it? As for Artemis’s altar at Tauri, though, and her hideous feasts, I should like it overturned from base to cornice.</p><p><label>Zeus</label> Whence comes this resistless plague among us? ‘There is none of us he spares; he is as free with his tongue as a tub orator,

<l>And grips by turns the innocent and guilty.</l></p><p><label>Momus</label> The innocent? You will not find many of those among us, Zeus. He will soon come to laying hands upon some of the great and eminent, I dare say.

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng4:" n="45"><p><label>Timocles</label> Do you close your ears even to Zeus’s thunder, atheist? Da. I clearly cannot shut out the thunder; whether it is

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Zeus’s thunder, you know better than I perhaps 5 you may have interviewed the Gods. Travellers from Crete tell another story: there is a tomb there with an inscribed pillar, stating that Zeus is long dead, and not going to thunder any more.</p><p><label>Momus</label> I could have told you that was coming long ago. What,
Zeus? pale? and your teeth chattering?, What is the matter? You should cheer up, and treat such manikins with lofty contempt.</p><p><label>Zeus</label> Contempt? See what a number of them there is—
how set against us they are already—and he has them fast by the ears.</p><p><label>Momus</label> Well, but you have only to choose, and you can let down your golden cord, and then every man of them With earth and sky and all thou canst draw up.

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng4:" n="46"><p><label>Timocles</label> Blasphemer, have you ever been a voyage?</p><p><label>Damis</label> Many.</p><p><label>Timocles</label> Well, then, thé wind struck the canvas and filled the sails, and it or the oars gave you way, but there was a person responsible for steering and for the safety of the ship?</p><p><label>Damis</label> Certainly.</p><p><label>Timocles</label> Now that ship would not have sailed, without a steersman; and do you suppose that this great universe drifts unsteered and uncontrolled?</p><p><label>Zeus</label> Good, this time, 'Timocles; a cogent illustration, that.

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng4:" n="47"><p><label>Damis</label> But, you pattern of piety, the earthly navigator makes bis plans, takes his measures, gives his orders, with a single eye to efficiency; there is nothing useless or purposeless on board 3 everything is to make navigation easy or possible; but as for the navigator for whom you claim the management of this vast ship, he and bis crew show no reason or appropriateness in any of their arrangements; the forestays, as likely as not, are made fast to the stern, and both sheets to the bows; the anchor will be gold, the beak lead, decoration below the water-line, and unsightliness above.

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</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng4:" n="48"><p>As for the men, you will find some lazy awkward coward in second or third command, or a fine swimmer, active as a cat aloft, and a handy man generally, chosen out of all the rest to—pump. It is just the same with the passengers: here is a gaolbird accommodated with a seat next the captain and treated with reverence, there a debauchee or parricide or temple-robber in honourable possession of the best place, while crowds of respectable people are packed together in a corner and hustled by their real inferiors. Consider what sort of a voyage Socrates and Aristides and Phocion had of it, on short rations, not venturing, for the filth, to stretch out their legs on the bare deck; and on the other hand what a comfortable, luxurious, contemptuous life it was for Callias or Midias or Sardanapalus.

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng4:" n="49"><p>That is how things go on board your ship, sir wiseacre; and who shall count the wrecks? If there had been a captain supervising and directing, in the first place he would have known the difference between good and bad passengers, and in the second he would have given them their deserts; the better would have had the better accommodation above by his side, and the worse gone below; with some of the better he would have shared his meals and his counsels. So too for the crew: the keen sailor would have been made look-out man or captain of the watch, or given some sort of precedence, and the lazy shirker have tasted the rope’s end half a dozen times a day. The metaphorical ship, your worship, ts likely to be capsized by its captain’s incompetence.

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng4:" n="50"><p><label>Momus</label> He is sweeping on to victory, with wind and tide.</p><p><label>Zeus</label> Too probable, Momus. And Timocles never gets hold of an effective idea; he can only ladle out trite commonplaces higgledy-piggledy—no sooner heard than refuted.

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng4:" n="51"><p><label>Timocles</label> Weil, well; my ship leaves you unconvinced; I must drop my sheet-anchor, then; that at least is unbreakable.</p><p><label>Zeus</label> I wonder what it is.</p><p><label>Timocles</label> See whether this is a sound syllogism; can you upset it?—

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If there are altars, there are Gods: there are altars; therefore, there are Gods. Now then.</p><p><label>Damis</label> Ha, ha, ha! I will answer as soon as I can get done with laughing.</p><p><label>Timocles</label> Will you never stop? At least tell me what the joke is.</p><p><label>Damis</label> Why, you don’t see that your anchor (sheet-anchor, too)
hangs by a mere thread. You depend on connexion between the existence of Gods and the existence of altars, and fancy yourself Safe at anchor! As you admit that this was your sheet-anchor, there is nothing further to detain us.

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng4:" n="52"><p><label>Timocles</label> You retire; you confess yourself beaten, then?</p><p><label>Damis</label> Yes; we have seen you take sanctuary at the altars under persecution. At those altars I am ready (the sheet-anchor be my witness) to swear peace and cease from strife.</p><p><label>Timocles</label> You are playing with me, are you, you vile body-snatcher, you loathsome well-whipped scum! As if we didn’t know who your father was, how your mother was a harlot! You strangled your own brother, you live in fornication, you debauch the young, you unabashed lecher! Don't be in such a hurry; bere is something for you to take with you 5 this broken pot will serve me to cut your foul throat.

</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" xml:base="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0062.tlg018.perseus-eng4:" n="53"><p><label>Zeus</label> Damis makes off with a laugh, and the other after him, calling him names, mad at his insolence. He will get him on the head with that pottery, I know. And now, what are we to do?</p><p><label>Hermagoras</label> Why, the man in the comedy was not far out:

Put a good face on’t, and thou hast no harm.</p><p>It is no such terrible disaster, if a few people go away infected. There are plenty who take the other view—a majority of Greeks, the body and dregs of the people, and the barbarians to'a man.</p><p><label>Zeus</label> Ah, Hermes, but there is a great deal in Darius’s remark about Zopyrus—I would rather have had one ally like Damis than be the lord of a thousand Babylons.

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