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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg030.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="book" n="2"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="376"><p><said who="#Socrates" rend="merge"><q type="spoken">How so?</q> he said; <q type="spoken">I don’t apprehend your meaning.</q> 
    <milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="376"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="376a"/> <q type="spoken">This too,</q> said I, <q type="spoken">is something that you will discover in dogs and which is worth our wonder in the creature.</q> <q type="spoken">What?</q> <q type="spoken">That the sight of an unknown person angers him before he has suffered any injury, but an acquaintance he will fawn upon though he has never received any kindness from him. Have you never marvelled at that?</q> <q type="spoken">I never paid any attention to the matter before now, but that he acts in some such way is obvious.</q> <q type="spoken">But surely that is an exquisite <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="376b"/> trait of his nature and one that shows a true love of wisdom.<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified"><foreign xml:lang="grc">φιλόσοφον</foreign>: etymologically here, as <foreign xml:lang="grc">ὡς ἀληθῶς</foreign> indicates. <q type="spoken">Your dog now is your only philosopher,</q> says Plato, not more seriously than Rabelais (Prologue): <quote xml:lang="fre">Mais vistes vous oncques chien rencontrant quelque os medullaire: c’est comme dit Platon, lib. ii. de Rep., la beste du monde plus philosophe.</quote> Cf. Huxley, <title> Hume </title>, p. 104: <quote>The dog who barks furiously at a beggar will let a well-dressed man pass him without opposition. Has he not a <q type="emph">general idea</q> of rags and dirt associated with the idea of aversion?</quote> Dummler and others assume that Plato is satirizing the Cynics, but who were the Cynics in <date from="-0380" to="-0370">380</date>-370 B.C.?</note></q> <q type="spoken">In what respect, pray?</q> <q type="spoken">In respect,</q> said I, <q type="spoken">that he distinguishes a friendly from a hostile aspect by nothing save his apprehension of the one and his failure to recognize the other. How, I ask you,<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified"><foreign xml:lang="grc">καίτοι πῶς</foreign>: humorous oratorical appeal. Cf. 360 C <foreign xml:lang="grc">καίτοι</foreign>.</note> can the love of learning be denied to a creature whose criterion of the friendly and the alien is intelligence and ignorance?</q> <q type="spoken">It certainly cannot,</q> he said. <q type="spoken">But you will admit,</q> said I, <q type="spoken">that the love of learning and the love of wisdom are the same?</q> <q type="spoken">The same,</q> he said. <q type="spoken">Then may we not confidently lay it down in the case of man too, that if he is to be <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="376c"/> in some sort gentle to friends and familiars he must be by nature a lover of wisdom and of learning?</q> <q type="spoken">Let us so assume,</q> he replied. <q type="spoken">The love of wisdom, then, and high spirit and quickness and strength will be combined for us in the nature of him who is to be a good and true guardian of the state.</q> <q type="spoken">By all means,</q> he said. <q type="spoken">Such, then,</q> I said, <q type="spoken">would be the basis<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">Cf. 343 E. <foreign xml:lang="grc">ὑπάρχοι</foreign> marks the basis of nature as opposed to teaching.</note> of his character. But the rearing of these men and their education, how shall we manage that? And will the consideration of this topic advance us <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="376d"/> in any way towards discerning what is the object of our entire inquiry—the origin of justice and injustice in a state—our aim must be to omit nothing of a sufficient discussion, and yet not to draw it out to tiresome length?</q> And Glaucon’s brother replied, <q type="spoken">Certainly, I expect that this inquiry will bring us nearer to that end.</q> <q type="spoken">Certainly, then, my dear Adeimantus,</q> said I, <q type="spoken">we must not abandon it even if it prove to be rather long.</q> <q type="spoken">No, we must not.</q> <q type="spoken">Come, then, just as if we were telling stories or fables<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">Cf. Introduction pp. xxi-xxii, and <title>Phaedrus</title> 276 E.</note> and <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="376e"/> had ample leisure,<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">Plato likes to contrast the leisure of philosophy with the hurry of business and law. Cf. <title>Theaetetus</title> 172 C-D.</note> let us educate these men in our discourse.</q> <q type="spoken">So we must.</q> 
    <milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">What, then, is our education?<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">For the abrupt question cf. 360 E. Plato here prescribes for all the guardians, or military class, the normal Greek education in music and gymnastics, purged of what he considers its errors. A higher philosophic education will prepare a selected few for the office of guardians <foreign xml:lang="fre">par excellence</foreign> or rulers. Quite unwarranted is the supposition that the higher education was not in Plato’s mind when he described the lower. Cf. 412 A, 429 D-430 C, 497 C-D, <title>Unity of Plato’s Thought</title>, n. 650.</note> Or is it hard to find a better than that which long time has discovered?<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">For this conservative argument Cf. <title>Politicus</title> 300 B, <title>Laws</title> 844 A.</note> Which is, I suppose, gymnastics for the body<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">Qualified in 410 C. <foreign xml:lang="grc">μουσική</foreign> is playing the lyre, music, poetry, letters, culture, philosophy, according to context.</note> and for the soul music.</q> <q type="spoken">It is.</q> <q type="spoken">And shall we not begin education in music earlier than in gymnastics?</q> <q type="spoken">Of course.</q> <q type="spoken">And under music you include tales, do you not?</q> <q type="spoken">I do.</q> <q type="spoken">And tales are of two species, the one true and the other false<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb" place="unspecified">A slight paradox to surprise attention.</note>?</q> <q type="spoken">Yes.</q></said></p></div></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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