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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg023.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="448"><milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="448"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="448a"/><said who="#Gorgias"><label>Gorg.</label><p>He is, Chaerephon;  indeed, I was just now making this very profession, and I may add that nobody has asked me anything new for many years now.</p></said><said who="#Chaerephon"><label>Chaer.</label><p>So I presume you will easily answer, Gorgias.</p></said><said who="#Gorgias"><label>Gorg.</label><p>You are free to make trial of that, Chaerephon.</p></said><said who="#Polus"><label>Pol.</label><p>Yes, to be sure;  and, if you like, Chaerephon, of me.  For I think Gorgias must be quite tired out, after the long discourse he has just delivered.</p></said><said who="#Chaerephon"><label>Chaer.</label><p>Why, Polus, do you suppose you could answer more excellently than Gorgias?</p></said><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="448b"/><said who="#Polus"><label>Pol.</label><p>And what does that matter, if I should satisfy you?</p></said><said who="#Chaerephon"><label>Chaer.</label><p>Not at all;  since it is your wish, answer.</p></said><said who="#Polus"><label>Pol.</label><p>Ask.</p></said><said who="#Chaerephon"><label>Chaer.</label><p>Then I ask you, if Gorgias chanced to be skilled in the same art as his brother Herodicus, what should we be justified in calling him?  What we call his brother, should we not?</p></said><said who="#Polus"><label>Pol.</label><p>Certainly.</p></said><said who="#Chaerephon"><label>Chaer.</label><p>Then we should make a right statement if we described him as a doctor.</p></said><said who="#Polus"><label>Pol.</label><p>Yes.</p></said><said who="#Chaerephon"><label>Chaer.</label><p>And if he were expert in the same art as Aristophon, son of Aglaophon, or his brother,<note resp="Loeb" anchored="true">Polygnotus, the famous painter who decorated public buildings in <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> from about 470 B.C.</note> what name should we rightly give him?</p></said><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="448c"/><said who="#Polus"><label>Pol.</label><p>Obviously that of painter.</p></said><said who="#Chaerephon"><label>Chaer.</label><p>But as it is, we would like to know in what art he is skilled, and hence by what name we should rightly call him.</p></said><said who="#Polus"><label>Pol.</label><p>Chaerephon, there are many arts amongst mankind that have been discovered experimentally, as the result of experiences:  for experience conducts the course of our life according to art, but inexperience according to chance.  Of these several arts various men partake in various ways, and the best men of the best.  Gorgias here is one of these, and he is a partner in the finest art of all.</p></said><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="448d"/><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Fine, at any rate, Gorgias, is the equipment for discourse that Polus seems to have got:  but still he is not performing his promise to Chaerephon.</p></said><said who="#Gorgias"><label>Gorg.</label><p>How exactly, Socrates ?</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>He does not seem to me to be quite answering what he is asked.</p></said><said who="#Gorgias"><label>Gorg.</label><p>Well, will you please ask him?</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>No, if you yourself will be so good as to answer, why, I would far rather ask you.  For I see plainly, <milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="448e"/> from what he has said, that Polus has had more practice in what is called rhetoric than in discussion.</p></said><said who="#Polus"><label>Pol.</label><p>How so, Socrates ?</p></said><said who="#Socrates"><label>Soc.</label><p>Because, Polus, when Chaerephon has asked in what art Gorgias is skilled, you merely eulogize his art as though it were under some censure, instead of replying what it is.</p></said><said who="#Polus"><label>Pol.</label><p>Why, did I not reply that it was the finest?</p></said></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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