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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg007.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="255"><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> But what do we mean by these words, <q type="emph">the same</q> and <q type="emph">other,</q> which we have just used? Are they two new classes, different from the other three, but always of necessity mingled with them, and must we conduct our inquiry on the assumption that there are five classes, not three, or are we unconsciously speaking of one of those three
<milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="255"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="255a"/>when we say <q type="emph">the same</q> or <q type="emph">other</q>?</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> Perhaps.</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> But certainly motion and rest are neither other nor the same.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> How so?</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> Whatever term we apply to rest and motion in common cannot be either of those two.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> Why not?</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> Because motion would be at rest and rest would be in motion;  in respect of both, for whichever of the two became <q type="emph">other</q> would force the other to change its nature into that of its opposite, since
<milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="255b"/>it would participate in its opposite.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> Exactly so.</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> Both certainly partake of the same and the other. <note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">i.e., sameness and difference can he predicated of both.</note></said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> Yes.</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> Then we must not say that motion, or rest either, is the same or other.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> No.</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> But should we conceive of <q type="emph">being</q> and <q type="emph">the same</q> as one?</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> Perhaps.</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> But if <q type="emph">being</q> and <q type="emph">the same</q> have no difference of meaning, then when we go on and say that both rest and motion are, we shall be saying that they are both the same,
<milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="255c"/>since they are.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> But surely that is impossible.</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> Then it is impossible for being and the same to be one.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> Pretty nearly.</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> So we shall consider <q type="emph">the same</q> a fourth class in addition to the other three?</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> Certainly.</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> Then shall we call <q type="emph">the other</q> a fifth class?  Or must we conceive of this and <q type="emph">being</q> as two names for one class?</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> May be.</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> But I fancy you admit that among the entities some are always conceived as absolute, and some as relative.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> Of course.</said></p><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="255d"/><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> And other is always relative to other, is it not?</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> Yes.</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> It would not be so, if being and the other were not utterly different.  If the other, like being, partook of both absolute and relative existence, there would be also among the others that exist another not in relation to any other;  but as it is, we find that whatever is other is just what it is through compulsion of some other.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> The facts are as you say.</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> Then we must place the nature of <q type="emph">the other</q> as a fifth
<milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="255e"/>among the classes in which we select our examples.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> Yes.</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> And we shall say that it permeates them all;  for each of them is other than the rest, not by reason of its own nature, but because it partakes of the idea of the other.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> Exactly.</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> Let us now state our conclusions, taking up the five classes one at a time.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> How?</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> Take motion first;  we say that it is entirely other than rest, do we not?</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> We do.</said></p><p><said who="#Stranger"><label>Str.</label> Then it is not rest.</said></p><p><said who="#Theaetetus"><label>Theaet.</label> Not at all.</said></p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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