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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg005.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="403"><p><said who="#Socrates" rend="merge"><label>Socrates.</label> But possibly that may not be right;  possibly two lambdas were originally pronounced instead of the sigma, because the god knew (<foreign xml:lang="grc">εἰδότος</foreign>) many (<foreign xml:lang="grc">πολλά</foreign>) things.
<milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="403"/><milestone n="403a" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>Or it may be that from his shaking he was called the Shaker (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ὁ σείων</foreign>), and the pi and delta are additions.  As for <placeName key="tgn,2119611">Pluto</placeName>, he was so named as the giver of wealth (<foreign xml:lang="grc">πλοῦτος</foreign>), because wealth comes up from below out of the earth.  And Hades—I fancy most people think that this is a name of the Invisible (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀειδής</foreign>), so they are afraid and call him <placeName key="tgn,2119611">Pluto</placeName>.
<milestone n="403b" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/></said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> And what do you think yourself, Socrates?</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> I think people have many false notions about the power of this god, and are unduly afraid of him.  They are afraid because when we are once dead we remain in his realm for ever, and they are also terrified because the soul goes to him without the covering of the body.  But I think all these facts, and the office and the name of the god, point in the same direction.</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> How so?
<milestone n="403c" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/></said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> I will tell you my own view.  Please answer this question:  Which is the stronger bond upon any living being to keep him in any one place, desire, or compulsion?</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Desire, Socrates, is much stronger.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> Then do you not believe there would be many fugitives from Hades, if he did not bind with the strongest bond those who go to him there?</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Of course there would.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> Apparently, then, if he binds them with the strongest bond, he binds them by some kind of desire, not by compulsion.</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Yes, that is plain.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> There are many desires, are there not?</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Yes.
<milestone n="403d" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/></said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> Then he binds with the desire which is the strongest of all, if he is to restrain them with the strongest bond.</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Yes.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> And is there any desire stronger than the thought of being made a better man by association with some one?</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> No, by Zeus, Socrates, there certainly is not.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> Then, Hermogenes, we must believe that this is the reason why no one has been willing to come away from that other world, not even the Sirens, but they and all others have been overcome by his enchantments,
<milestone n="403e" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>so beautiful, as it appears, are the words which Hades has the power to speak;  and from this point of view this god is a perfect sophist and a great benefactor of those in his realm, he who also bestows such great blessings upon us who are on earth;  such abundance surrounds him there below, and for this reason he is called <placeName key="tgn,2119611">Pluto</placeName>.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="404"><p><said who="#Socrates" rend="merge"><label>Socrates.</label> Then, too, he refuses to consort with men while they have bodies, but only accepts their society
<milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="404"/><milestone n="404a" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>when the soul is pure of all the evils and desires of the body.  Do you not think this shows him to be a philosopher and to understand perfectly that under these conditions he could restrain them by binding them with the desire of virtue, but that so long as they are infected with the unrest and madness of the body, not even his father Cronus could hold them to himself, though he bound them with his famous chains?</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> There seems to be something in that, Socrates.
<milestone n="404b" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/></said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> And the name <q type="emph">Hades</q> is not in the least derived from the invisible (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀειδές</foreign>), but far more probably from knowing (<foreign xml:lang="grc">εἰδέναι</foreign>) all noble things, and for that reason he was called Hades by the lawgiver.</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Very well;  what shall we say of Demeter, Hera, Apollo, Athena, Hephaestus, Ares, and the other gods</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> Demeter appears to have been called Demeter, because like a mother (<foreign xml:lang="grc">μήτηρ</foreign>) she gives the gift of food,
<milestone n="404c" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>and Hera is a lovely one (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἐρατή</foreign>), as indeed, Zeus is said to have married her for love.  But perhaps the lawgiver had natural phenomena in mind, and called her Hera (<foreign xml:lang="grc">Ἥρα</foreign>) as a disguise for <foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀήρ</foreign> (air), putting the beginning at the end.  You would understand, if you were to repeat the name Hera over and over.  And Pherephatta!—How many people fear this name, and also Apollo!  I imagine it is because they do not know about correctness of names.  You see they change the name to Phersephone and its aspect frightens them.  But really the name indicates that the goddess is wise;
<milestone n="404d" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>for since things are in motion (<foreign xml:lang="grc">φερόμενα</foreign>), that which grasps (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἐφαπτόμενον</foreign>) and touches (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἐπαφῶν</foreign>) and is able to follow them is wisdom.  Pherepapha, or something of that sort, would therefore be the correct name of the goddess, because she is wise and touches that which is in motion (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἐπαφὴ τοῦ φερομένου</foreign>)—and this is the reason why Hades, who is wise, consorts with her, because she is wise—but people have altered her name, attaching more importance to euphony than to truth, and they call her Pherephatta.  Likewise in the case of Apollo,
<milestone n="404e" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>as I say, many people are afraid because of the name of the god, thinking that it has some terrible meaning.  Have you not noticed that?</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Certainly;  what you say is true.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> But really the name is admirably appropriate to the power of the god.</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> How is that?</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="405"><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> I will try to tell you what I think about it;
<milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="405"/><milestone n="405a" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>for no single name could more aptly indicate the four functions of the god, touching upon them all and in a manner declaring his power in music, prophecy, medicine, and archery.</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Go on;  you seem to imply that it is a remarkable name.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> His name and nature are in harmony;  you see he is a musical god.  For in the first place, purification and purgations used in medicine and in soothsaying, and fumigations with medicinal and magic drugs,
<milestone n="405b" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>and the baths and sprinklings connected with that sort of thing all have the single function of making a man pure in body and soul, do they not?</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Certainly.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> But this is the god who purifies and washes away (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀπαλοούων</foreign>) and delivers (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀπολύων</foreign>) from such evils, is he not?</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Certainly.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> With reference, then, to his acts of delivering and his washings,
<milestone n="405c" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>as being the physician of such diseases, he might properly be called Apoluon (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀπαλούων</foreign>, the washer), and with reference to soothsaying and truth and simplicity—for the two are identical—he might most properly be called by the name the Thessalians use;  for all Thessalians call the god Aplun.  And because he is always by his archery controller of darts (<foreign xml:lang="grc">βολῶν</foreign>) he is ever darting (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀεὶ βάλλων</foreign>).  And with reference to music we have to understand that <term>alpha</term> often signifies <q type="emph">together,</q> and here it denotes moving together in the heavens about the poles, as we call them, and harmony in song,
<milestone n="405d" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>which is called concord;  for, as the ingenious musicians and astronomers tell us, all these things move together by a kind of harmony.  And this god directs the harmony, making them all move together, among both gods and men;  and so, just as we call the <foreign xml:lang="grc">ὁμοκέλευθον</foreign> (him who accompanies), and <foreign xml:lang="grc">ὁμόκοιτιν</foreign> (bedfellow), by changing the <foreign xml:lang="grc">ὁμο</foreign> to alpha, <foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀκόλουθον</foreign> and <foreign xml:lang="grc">ἄκοιτιν</foreign>, so also we called him Apollo who was Homopolo,
<milestone n="405e" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>and the second lambda was inserted, because without it the name sounded of disaster (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀπολῶ, ἀπόλωλα</foreign>, etc.).</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="406"><p><said who="Socrates" rend="merge"><label>Socrates.</label> Even as it is, some have a suspicion of this, because they do not properly regard the force of the name, and therefore they fear it, thinking that it denotes some kind of ruin.  But in fact, as was said,
<milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="406"/><milestone n="406a" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>the name touches upon all the qualities of the god, as simple, ever-darting, purifying, and accompanying. The Muses and music in general are named, apparently, from <foreign xml:lang="grc">μῶσθαι</foreign>, searching, and philosophy;  and Leto from her gentleness, because whatever is asked of her, she is willing (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἐθελήμων</foreign>).  But perhaps her name is Letho, as she is called by many foreigners;  and those who call her by that name seem to do so
<milestone n="406b" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>on account of the mild and gentle (<foreign xml:lang="grc">λεῖον, Ληθώ</foreign>) kindness of her character.  Artemis appears to get her name from her healthy (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀρτεμές</foreign>) and well-ordered nature, and her love of virginity;  or perhaps he who named her meant that she is learned in virtue (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀρετή</foreign>), or possibly, too, that she hates sexual intercourse (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἄροτον μισεῖ</foreign>) of man and woman;  or he who gave the goddess her name may have given it for any or all of these reasons.</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> What of Dionysus and Aphrodite?</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> You ask great things of me, son of Hipponicus.  You see there is both a serious and a facetious account of the form
<milestone n="406c" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>of the name of these deities.  You will have to ask others for the serious one;  but there is nothing to hinder my giving you the facetious account, for the gods also have a sense of humor.  Dionysus, the giver (<foreign xml:lang="grc">διδούς</foreign>) of wine (<foreign xml:lang="grc">οἶνος</foreign>), might be called in jest Didoinysus, and wine, because it makes most drinkers think (<foreign xml:lang="grc">οἴεσθαι</foreign>) they have wit (<foreign xml:lang="grc">νοῦς</foreign>) when they have not, might very justly be called Oeonus (<foreign xml:lang="grc">οἰόνους</foreign>).  As for Aphrodite, we need not oppose Hesiod;  we can accept his derivation of the name
<milestone n="406d" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>from her birth out of the foam (<foreign xml:lang="grc">ἀφροῦ</foreign>).</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> But surely you, as an Athenian, will not forget Athena, nor Hephaestus and Ares.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> That is not likely.</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> No.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> It is easy to tell the reason of one of her two names.</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> What name?</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> We call her <placeName key="tgn,2565867">Pallas</placeName>, you know.</said></p><p><said who="#Hermogenes"><label>Hermogenes.</label> Yes, of course.</said></p><p><said who="#Socrates"><label>Socrates.</label> Those of us are right, I fancy,
<milestone n="406e" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>who think this name is derived from armed dances, for lifting oneself or anything else from the ground or
<milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="407"/><milestone n="407a" unit="section" resp="Stephanus"/>in the hands is called shaking (<foreign xml:lang="grc">πάλλειν</foreign>) and being shaken, or dancing and being danced.</said></p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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