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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg004.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="83"><p><said who="#Phaedo" rend="merge"><label>Phaedo.</label><q type="spoken" rend="merge">
                            The lovers of
                    knowledge, then, I say, perceive that philosophy, taking possession of the soul
                    when it is in this state, encourages it gently and tries to set it free,
                    pointing out that the eyes and the ears and the other senses are full of deceit,
                    and urging it to withdraw from these, except in so far as their use is
                    unavoidable, and exhorting it to collect and concentrate itself within itself,
                    and to trust nothing except 
         
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            itself and its
                    own abstract thought of abstract existence; and to believe that there is no
                    truth in that which it sees by other means and which varies with the various
                    objects in which it appears, since everything of that kind is visible and
                    apprehended by the senses, whereas the soul itself sees that which is invisible
                    and apprehended by the mind. Now the soul of the true philosopher believes that
                    it must not resist this deliverance, and therefore it stands aloof from
                    pleasures and lusts and griefs and fears, so far as it can, considering that
                    when anyone has violent pleasures or fears or griefs or lusts he suffers from
                    them not merely what one might think—for example, illness or loss of money
                    spent 
         
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            for his lusts—but he suffers the
                    greatest and most extreme evil and does not take it into
                        account.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">What is this evil,
                    Socrates?</q> said Cebes.<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">The evil is
                    that the soul of every man, when it is greatly pleased or pained by anything, is
                    compelled to believe that the object which caused the emotion is very distinct
                    and very true; but it is not. These objects are mostly the visible ones, are
                    they not?</q> 
         
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            <q type="spoken">Certainly.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">And when
                    this occurs, is not the soul most completely put in bondage by the
                        body?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">How so?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Because each pleasure or pain nails it as with a
                    nail to the body and rivets it on and makes it corporeal, so that it fancies the
                    things are true which the body says are true. For because it has the same
                    beliefs and pleasures as the body it is compelled to adopt also the same habits
                    and mode of life, and can never depart in purity to the other world, but must
                    always go away contaminated with the body; and so it sinks quickly into another
                    body again and grows into it, 
         
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            like seed that
                    is sown. Therefore it has no part in the communion with the divine and pure and
                        absolute.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">What you say,
                    Socrates, is very true,</q> said Cebes.<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">This, Cebes, is the reason why the true lovers of knowledge are
                            temperate and brave; not the world’s reason. Or do you disagree?</q></said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="84"><p><said who="#Phaedo" rend="merge"><label>Phaedo.</label><milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="84"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="84a"/><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Certainly not.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">No, for the soul of the philosopher would not reason as
                    others do, and would not think it right that philosophy should set it free, and
                    that then when set free it should give itself again into bondage to pleasure and
                    pain and engage in futile toil, like Penelope unweaving the web she wove. No,
                    his soul believes that it must gain peace from these emotions, must follow
                    reason and abide always in it, beholding that which is true and divine and not a
                    matter of opinion, and making that its only food; 
         
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            and in this way it believes it must live, while life
                    endures, and then at death pass on to that which is akin to itself and of like
                    nature, and be free from human ills. A soul which has been nurtured in this way,
                    Simmias and Cebes, is not likely to fear that it will be torn asunder at its
                    departure from the body and will vanish into nothingness, blown apart by the
                    winds, and be no longer anywhere.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>When
                    Socrates had said this there was silence 
         
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            for
                    a long time, and Socrates himself was apparently absorbed in what had been said,
                    as were also most of us. But Simmias and Cebes conversed a little with each
                    other; and Socrates saw them and said: <q type="spoken">Do you think there is any
                    incompleteness in what has been said? There are still many subjects for doubt
                    and many points open to attack, if anyone cares to discuss the matter
                    thoroughly. If you are considering anything else, I have nothing to say; but if
                    you are in any difficulty about these matters, do not hesitate 
         
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            to speak and discuss them yourselves, if you think
                    anything better could be said on the subject, and to take me along with you in
                    the discussion, if you think you can get on better in my
                        company.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>And Simmias said:
                    <q type="spoken">Socrates, I will tell you the truth. For some time each of us has been in
                    doubt and has been egging the other on and urging him to ask a question, because
                    we wish to hear your answer, but hesitate to trouble you, for fear that it may
                    be disagreeable to you in your present misfortune.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>And when he heard is, he laughed gently and said: <q type="spoken">Ah,
                        
         
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            Simmias! I should have hard work to
                    persuade other people that I do not regard my present situation as a misfortune,
                    when I cannot even make you believe it, but you are afraid I am more churlish
                    now than I used to be. And you seem to think I am inferior in prophetic power to
                    the swans who sing at other times also, but when they feel that they are to die,
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                        sing most and best in their joy that they are to go to the god whose servants they are.</q></said></p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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