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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg004.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="79"><p><said who="#Phaedo" rend="merge"><label>Phaedo.</label><milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="79"/><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="79a"/><q type="spoken">And you can
                    see these and touch them and perceive them by the other senses, whereas the
                    things which are always the same can be grasped only by the reason, and are
                    invisible and not to be seen?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Certainly,</q> said he, <q type="spoken">that is true.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Now,</q> said he, <q type="spoken">shall we assume two kinds of
                    existences, one visible, the other invisible?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Let us assume them,</q> said Cebes.<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">And that the invisible is always the same and the
                    visible constantly changing?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Let us
                    assume that also,</q> said he. 
         
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            <q type="spoken">Well
                    then,</q> said Socrates, <q type="spoken">are we not made up of two parts, body and
                        soul?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Yes,</q> he
                        replied.<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Now to which class should we
                    say the body is more similar and more closely akin?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">To the visible,</q> said he; <q type="spoken">that is clear to
                        everyone.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">And the soul? Is it
                    visible or invisible?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Invisible, to
                    man, at least, Socrates.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">But we call
                    things visible and invisible with reference to human vision, do we
                        not?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Yes, we
                        do.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Then what do we say about
                    the soul? Can it be seen or not?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">It
                    cannot be seen.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Then it is
                    invisible?</q> <milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Yes.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Then the soul is more like the invisible than the
                    body is, 
         
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            and the body more like the
                        visible.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Necessarily,
                        Socrates.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Now we have also been
                    saying for a long time, have we not, that, when the soul makes use of the body
                    for any inquiry, either through seeing or hearing or any of the other
                    senses—for inquiry through the body means inquiry through the
                    senses,—then it is dragged by the body to things which never remain the
                    same, and it wanders about and is confused and dizzy like a drunken man because
                    it lays hold upon such things?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Certainly.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">But when the
                    soul 
         
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            inquires alone by itself, it departs
                    into the realm of the pure, the everlasting, the immortal and the changeless,
                    and being akin to these it dwells always with them whenever it is by itself and
                    is not hindered, and it has rest from its wanderings and remains always the same
                    and unchanging with the changeless, since it is in communion therewith. And this
                    state of the soul is called wisdom. Is it not so?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Socrates,</q> said he, <q type="spoken">what you say is
                    perfectly right and true.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">And now
                    again, in view of what we said before and of what has just been said, to which
                    class do you think 
         
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            the soul has greater
                    likeness and kinship?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">I think,
                    Socrates,</q> said he, <q type="spoken">that anyone, even the dullest, would agree,
                    after this argument that the soul is infinitely more like that which is always
                    the same than that which is not.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">And
                    the body?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Is more like the
                        other.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Consider, then, the
    matter in another way.</q></said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="80"><p><said who="#Phaedo" rend="merge"><label>Phaedo.</label><q type="spoken" rend="merge">When the soul <milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="80"/>
            
         
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            and the body are joined together, nature directs the
                    one to serve and be ruled, and the other to rule and be master. Now this being
                    the case, which seems to you like the divine, and which like the mortal? Or do
                    you not think that the divine is by nature fitted to rule and lead, and the
                    mortal to obey and serve?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Yes, I
                    think so.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Which, then, does the soul
                        resemble?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Clearly, Socrates, the
                    soul is like the divine and the body like the mortal.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Then see, Cebes, if this is not the conclusion from all
                    that we have said, 
         
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            that the soul is most like
                    the divine and immortal and intellectual and uniform and indissoluble and ever
                    unchanging, and the body, on the contrary, most like the human and mortal and
                    multiform and unintellectual and dissoluble and ever changing. Can we say
                    anything, my dear Cebes, to show that this is not so?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">No, we cannot.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Well then, since this is the case, is it not natural for the body to
                    meet with speedy dissolution and for the soul, on the contrary, to be entirely
                    indissoluble, or nearly so?</q><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="80c"/><q type="spoken">Of
                        course.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Observe,</q> he went
                    on, <q type="spoken">that when a man dies, the visible part of him, the body, which lies
                    in the visible world and which we call the corpse, which is naturally subject to
                    dissolution and decomposition, does not undergo these processes at once, but
                    remains for a considerable time, and even for a very long time, if death takes
                    place when the body is in good condition, and at a favorable time of the year.
                    For when the body is shrunk and embalmed, as is done in <placeName key="tgn,7016833">Egypt</placeName>, it remains almost entire for an
                    incalculable time. And even if the body decay, 
         
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            some parts of it, such as the bones and sinews and all that, are, so to speak,
                    indestructible. Is not that true?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Yes.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">But the soul, the
                    invisible, which departs into another place which is, like itself, noble and
                    pure and invisible, to the realm of the god of the other world in truth, to the
                    good and wise god, whither, if God will, my soul is soon to go,—is this
                    soul, which has such qualities and such a nature, straightway scattered and
                    destroyed when it departs from the body, as most men say? 
         
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            Far from it, dear Cebes and Simmias, but the truth is much
                    rather this—if it departs pure, dragging with it nothing of the body,
                    because it never willingly associated with the body in life, but avoided it and
                    gathered itself into itself alone, since this has always been its constant
                    study—but this means nothing else than that it pursued philosophy rightly
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            really
                    practiced being in a state of death: or is not this the practice of
                        death?</q></said></p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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