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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg004.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="75"><p><said who="#Phaedo" rend="merge"><label>Phaedo.</label><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Then we
                    must have had knowledge of equality <milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="75"/>
            
         
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            before the time when we first saw equal things and
                    thought, ‘All these things are aiming to be like equality but fall
                        short.’</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">That is
                        true.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">And we agree, also, that
                    we have not gained knowledge of it, and that it is impossible to gain this
                    knowledge, except by sight or touch or some other of the senses? I consider that
                    all the senses are alike.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Yes,
                    Socrates, they are all alike, for the purposes of our argument.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Then it is through the senses that we must learn
                        
         
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            that all sensible objects strive after
                    absolute equality and fall short of it. Is that our view?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Yes.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Then before we began to see or hear or use the other senses we must
                    somewhere have gained a knowledge of abstract or absolute equality, if we were
                    to compare with it the equals which we perceive by the senses, and see that all
                    such things yearn to be like abstract equality but fall short of
                        it.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">That follows necessarily
                    from what we have said before, Socrates.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">And we saw and heard and had the other senses as soon as we were
                    born?</q><milestone unit="section" resp="Stephanus" n="75c"/><q type="spoken">Certainly.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">But, we say,
                    we must have acquired a knowledge of equality before we had these
                        senses?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Yes.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Then it appears that we must have acquired it before we
                    were born.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">It does.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Now if we had acquired that knowledge before we
                    were born, and were born with it, we knew before we were born and at the moment
                    of birth not only the equal and the greater and the less, but all such
                    abstractions? For our present argument is no more concerned with the equal than
                    with absolute beauty and the absolute good and the just and the holy, and, in
                    short, 
         
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            with all those things which we stamp
                    with the seal of absolute in our dialectic process of questions and answers; so
                    that we must necessarily have acquired knowledge of all these before our
                        birth.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">That is
                        true.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">And if after acquiring it
                    we have not, in each case, forgotten it, we must always be born knowing these
                    things, and must know them throughout our life; for to know is to have acquired
                    knowledge and to have retained it without losing it, and the loss of knowledge
                    is just what we mean when we speak of forgetting, is it not,
                        Simmias?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Certainly, 
         
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            Socrates,</q> said he.<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">But, I suppose, if we acquired knowledge before we were
                    born and lost it at birth, but afterwards by the use of our senses regained the
                    knowledge which we had previously possessed, would not the process which we call
                    learning really be recovering knowledge which is our own? And should we be right
                    in calling this recollection?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Assuredly.</q></said></p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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