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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg004.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="74"><p><said who="#Phaedo" rend="merge"><label>Phaedo.</label><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">And on seeing a picture of Simmias he can be
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            of
                    Simmias himself?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Yes,</q> said
                        he.<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">All these examples show, then, that
                    recollection is caused by like things and also by unlike things, do they
                        not?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Yes.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">And when one has a recollection of anything
                    caused by like things, will he not also inevitably consider whether this
                    recollection offers a perfect likeness of the thing recollected, or
                        not?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Inevitably,</q> he
                        replied.<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Now see,</q> said he,
                    <q type="spoken">if this is true. We say there is such a thing as equality. I do not mean
                    one piece of wood equal to another, or one stone to another, or anything of that
                    sort, but something beyond that—equality in the abstract. Shall we say
                    there is such a thing, or not?</q> 
         
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            <q type="spoken">We shall say that there is,</q> said Simmias, <q type="spoken">most
                        decidedly.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">And do we know what
                    it is?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Certainly,</q> said
                        he.<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Whence did we derive the knowledge
                    of it? Is it not from the things we were just speaking of? Did we not, by seeing
                    equal pieces of wood or stones or other things, derive from them a knowledge of
                    abstract equality, which is another thing? Or do you not think it is another
                    thing? Look at the matter in this way. Do not equal stones and pieces of wood,
                    though they remain the same, sometimes appear to us equal in one respect and
                    unequal in another?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Certainly.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Well, then,
                    did absolute equals ever appear to you unequal or 
         
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            equality inequality?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">No, Socrates, never.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Then,</q> said he, <q type="spoken">those equals are not the same as equality
                    in the abstract.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Not at all, I
                    should say, Socrates.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">But from those
                    equals,</q> said he, <q type="spoken">which are not the same as abstract equality, you
                    have nevertheless conceived and acquired knowledge of it?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Very true,</q> he replied.<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">And it is either like them or unlike
                        them?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Certainly.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">It makes no
                    difference,</q> said he. <q type="spoken">Whenever the sight of one thing 
         
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            brings you a perception of another, whether they be
                    like or unlike, that must necessarily be recollection.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Surely.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Now
                    then,</q> said he, <q type="spoken">do the equal pieces of wood and the equal things of
                    which we were speaking just now affect us in this way: Do they seem to us to be
                    equal as abstract equality is equal, or do they somehow fall short of being like
                    abstract equality?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">They fall very
                    far short of it,</q> said he.<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Do we
                    agree, then, that when anyone on seeing a thing thinks, <q type="thought">This thing that I see
                    aims at being like some other thing that exists, but falls short 
         
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            and is unable to be like that thing, but is inferior
                    to it</q>, he who thinks thus must of necessity have previous knowledge of the thing
                    which he says the other resembles but falls short of?</q>
    <milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">We must.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Well then, is this just what happened to us with regard to the equal
    things and equality in the abstract?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">It certainly is.</q></said></p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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