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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0059.tlg004.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="65"><p><said who="#Phaedo" rend="merge"><label>Phaedo.</label><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">To begin with, then, it is clear that in such
                    matters the philosopher, more than other men, separates <milestone unit="page" resp="Stephanus" n="65"/>
            
         
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            the soul from communion with the
                    body?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">It is.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Now certainly most people think that a man who
                    takes no pleasure and has no part in such things doesn’t deserve to live, and
                    that one who cares nothing for the pleasures of the body is about as good as
                        dead.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">That is very
                        true.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Now, how about the
                    acquirement of pure knowledge? Is the body a hindrance or not, if it is made to
                    share in the search for wisdom? 
         
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            What I mean
                    is this: Have the sight and hearing of men any truth in them, or is it true, as
                    the poets are always telling us, that we neither hear nor see any thing
                    accurately? And yet if these two physical senses are not accurate or exact, the
                    rest are not likely to be, for they are inferior to these. Do you not think
                        so?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Certainly I do,</q> he
                        replied.<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Then,</q> said he,
                    <q type="spoken">when does the soul attain to truth? For when it tries to consider
                    anything in company with the body, it is evidently deceived by it.</q>
                        
         
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            <q type="spoken">True.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">In thought, then, if at all, something of the realities
                    becomes clear to it?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>
                        <q type="spoken">Yes.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/> <q type="spoken">But it thinks best
                    when none of these things troubles it, neither hearing nor sight, nor pain nor
                    any pleasure, but it is, so far as possible, alone by itself, and takes leave of
                    the body, and avoiding, so far as it can, all association or contact with the
                    body, reaches out toward the reality.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">That is true.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">In this
                    matter also, then, 
         
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            the soul of the
                    philosopher greatly despises the body and avoids it and strives to be alone by
                        itself?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Evidently.</q>
    <milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Now how
                    about such things as this, Simmias? Do we think there is such a thing as
                    absolute justice, or not?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">We
                    certainly think there is.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">And
                    absolute beauty and goodness.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Of
                        course.</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Well, did you ever see
                    anything of that kind with your eyes?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Certainly not,</q> said he.<milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Or
                    did you ever reach them with any of the bodily senses? I am speaking of all such
                    things, as size, health, strength, and in short the essence 
         
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            or underlying quality of everything. Is their true nature
                    contemplated by means of the body? Is it not rather the case that he who
                    prepares himself most carefully to understand the true essence of each thing
                    that he examines would come nearest to the knowledge of it?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Certainly.</q></said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" resp="perseus" n="66"><p><said who="#Phaedo" rend="merge"><label>Phaedo.</label><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">Would not that man do this most perfectly who approaches each thing, so far as possible, with the reason alone, not introducing sight into his reasoning
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            any of the other senses along with his thinking, but who employs pure,
                    absolute reason in his attempt to search out the pure, absolute essence of
                    things, and who removes himself, so far as possible, from eyes and ears, and, in
                    a word, from his whole body, because he feels that its companionship disturbs
                    the soul and hinders it from attaining truth and wisdom? Is not this the man,
                    Simmias, if anyone, to attain to the knowledge of reality?</q><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><q type="spoken">That is true as true can be, Socrates,</q>
                    said Simmias. 
         
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            <q type="spoken">Then,</q> said he,
                    <q type="spoken">all this must cause good lovers of wisdom to think and say one to the
                    other something like this: <q type="spoken">There seems to be a short cut which leads us and our
                    argument to the conclusion in our search that so long as we have the body, and
                    the soul is contaminated by such an evil, we shall never attain completely what
                    we desire, that is, the truth. For the body keeps us constantly busy by reason
                    of its need of sustenance; 
         
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            and moreover, if
                    diseases come upon it they hinder our pursuit of the truth. And the body fills
                    us with passions and desires and fears, and all sorts of fancies and
                    foolishness, so that, as they say, it really and truly makes it impossible for
                    us to think at all. The body and its desires are the only cause of wars and
                    factions and battles; for all wars arise for the sake of gaining money, and we
                    are compelled to gain money 
         
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            for the sake of
                    the body. We are slaves to its service. And so, because of all these things, we
                    have no leisure for philosophy. But the worst of all is that if we do get a bit
                    of leisure and turn to philosophy, the body is constantly breaking in upon our
                    studies and disturbing us with noise and confusion, so that it prevents our
                    beholding the truth, and in fact we perceive that, if we are ever to know
                    anything absolutely, we must be free from the body and must behold 
         
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            the actual realities with the eye of the soul alone.
                    And then, as our argument shows, when we are dead we are likely to possess the
                    wisdom which we desire and claim to be enamored of, but not while we live.</q></q></said></p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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