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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="edition" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0032.tlg006.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div type="textpart" subtype="book" n="7"><div type="textpart" subtype="chapter" n="7"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="13"><p>And Xenophon, taking with him the best men he had, went to Charminus
                                and Polynicus and said that Medosades was summoning them in order to
                                give them the same warning as he had already given him,—to depart
                                from the country.</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="14"><p><said direct="true">I should think, therefore,</said> he continued,
                                    <said direct="true">that you might recover for the army the pay
                                    that is due if you should say that the army has requested you to
                                    aid them in exacting their pay from Seuthes whether he will or
                                    no, and that the troops say that they would follow you eagerly
                                    in case they should obtain it; also, that their words seem to
                                    you just, and that you promised them not to depart until the
                                    soldiers should obtain their rights.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="15"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>When they had heard him, the Laconians
                                replied that they would make such statements, adding others as
                                forceful as they could make them; and straightway they set forth,
                                taking with them all the important men of the army. Upon their
                                arrival Charminus said: <said direct="true">If you have anything to
                                    say to us, Medosades, say it; if not, we have something to say
                                    to you.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="16"><p>And Medosades replied, very submissively: <said direct="true">I say,
                                    and Seuthes also says the same, that we ask that those who have
                                    become friends of ours should not suffer harm at your hands; for
                                    whatever harm you may do to them, you are then and there doing
                                    to us; for they are ours.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="17"><p><said direct="true">As for ourselves, then,</said> said the
                                Laconians, <said direct="true">we shall depart whenever the men who
                                    obtained these possessions for you, have received their pay;
                                    failing that, we intend here and now to lend them our assistance
                                    and to punish the men who, in violation of their oaths, have
                                    done them wrong. And if you belong to that number, it is with
                                    you that we shall begin in obtaining their rights.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="18"><p>Then Xenophon said: <said direct="true">Would you be willing,
                                    Medosades, to leave the question to these people (for you were
                                    saying that they are your friends) in whose country we are, to
                                    vote, one way or the other, whether it is proper for you or
                                    ourselves to depart from their country?</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="19"><p>Medosades said <said direct="true">No</said> to that; but he urged,
                                as his preference, that the two Laconians should go to Seuthes
                                themselves about the pay, and said that he thought they might
                                persuade Seuthes; or if they would not consent to go, he asked them
                                to send Xenophon along with himself, and promised to support him.
                                And he begged them not to burn the villages.</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="20"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>Thereupon they sent Xenophon, and with
                                him the men who seemed to be fittest. When he had come, he said to
                                Seuthes:</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="21"><p><said direct="true">I am here, Seuthes, not to present any demand,
                                    but to show you, if I can, that you were wrong in getting angry
                                    with me because in the name of the soldiers I zealously demanded
                                    from you what you had promised them; for I believed that it was
                                    no less to your advantage to pay them than it was to theirs to
                                    get their pay.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="22"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">For, in the first place, I know that
                                    next to the gods it was these men who set you in a conspicuous
                                    position, since they made you king over a large territory and
                                    many people; hence it is not possible for you to escape notice,
                                    whether you perform an honourable deed or a base one.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="23"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">Now it seemed to me an important
                                    thing that a man in such a place should not be thought to have
                                    dismissed benefactors without gratitude, an important thing also
                                    to be well spoken of by six thousand men,<note anchored="true" resp="Loeb">cp. the enumeration of the <q type="soCalled">Ten Thousand</q> in <bibl n="Xen. Anab. 5.3.3">Xen.
                                            Anab. 5.3.3</bibl>, and see especially <bibl n="Xen. Anab. 7.2.3">Xen. Anab. 7.2.3-4</bibl> and
                                        6.</note> but most important of all that you should by no
                                    means set yourself down as untrustworthy in whatever you
                                    say.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="24"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">For I see that the words of
                                    untrustworthy men wander here and there without result, without
                                    power, and without honour; but if men are seen to practise
                                    truth, their words, if they desire anything, have power to
                                    accomplish no less than force in the hands of other men; and if
                                    they wish to bring one to reason, I perceive that their threats
                                    can do this no less than present chastisement applied by others;
                                    and if such men make a promise to any one, they accomplish no
                                    less than others do by an immediate gift.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="25"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true" rend="merge">Recall for yourself what amount you paid to us in advance in
                                    order to obtain us as allies. You know that it was nothing; but
                                    because you were trusted to carry out truthfully whatever you
                                    said, you induced that great body of men to take the field with
                                    you and to gain for you a realm worth not merely thirty talents,
                                    the sum which these men think they ought now to recover, but
                                    many times as much.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="26"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">First of all, then, this trust, the
                                    very thing which gained your kingdom for you, is being sold for
                                    this sum.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="27"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true" rend="merge">Come,
                                    now, recall how great a thing you then deemed it to achieve the
                                    conquests which you now have achieved. For my part, I am sure
                                    you would have prayed that the deeds now done might be
                                    accomplished for you rather than that many times that amount of
                                    money might fall to your lot.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="28"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">Now I count it greater hurt and
                                    shame not to hold these possessions firmly now than not to have
                                    gained them then, by so much as it is a harder fate to become
                                    poor after being rich than not to become rich at all, and by so
                                    much as it is more painful to be found a subject after being a
                                    king than not to become king at all.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="29"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">You understand, then, that those who
                                    have now become your subjects were not persuaded to live under
                                    your rule out of affection for you, but by stress of necessity,
                                    and that unless some fear should restrain them, they would
                                    endeavour to become free again.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="30"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">In which of these two cases,
                                    therefore do you think they would feel greater fear and be more
                                    moderate in their relations with you: if they should see the
                                    soldiers cherishing such feelings toward you that they would
                                    stay with you now if you so bade them and would quickly come
                                    back to you again if you needed them, and should see also that
                                    others, hearing many good things about you from these troops,
                                    would quickly present themselves to take service with you
                                    whenever you wished it—or if they should form the unkind opinion
                                    that no other soldiers would come to you, in consequence of a
                                    distrust resulting from what has now happened, and that these
                                    whom you have are more friendly to them than to you?</said></p></div></div></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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