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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" xml:lang="eng" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0032.tlg002.perseus-eng2" subtype="translation"><div type="textpart" subtype="book" n="2"><div type="textpart" subtype="chapter" n="7"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="5"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">What is an
                                    artisan? one who knows how to produce something
                                    useful?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>Certainly.<milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Are groats useful?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Yes, very.</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">And bread?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>No less so.<milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">What about men’s and women’s cloaks, shirts,
                                    capes, smocks?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Yes, all these things too are very
                                    useful.</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Then don’t the members of your household know how
                                    to make any of these?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">I believe they can make all of
                                    them.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="6"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Don’t you know,
                                    then, that by manufacturing one of these commodities, namely
                                    groats, Nausicydes keeps not only himself and his family, but
                                    large herds of swine and cattle as well, and has so much to
                                    spare that he often undertakes costly public duties; that
                                    Cyrebus feeds his whole family well and lives in luxury by
                                    baking bread, Demeas of Collytus by making capes, Menon by
                                    making cloaks; and most of the Megarians make a good living out
                                    of smocks?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Yes, of course; for they buy foreign slaves and
                                    can force them to make what is convenient, but my household is
                                    made up of gentlefolk and relations.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="7"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">And so, just
                                    because they are gentlefolk and related to you, you think they
                                    should do nothing but eat and sleep? Do you find that other
                                    gentlefolk who live this sort of life are better off and happier
                                    than those who are usefully employed in work that they
                                    understand? Or is it your experience that idleness and
                                    carelessness help men to learn what they ought to know and
                                    remember what they learn, to make themselves healthy and strong,
                                    and to get and keep things that are of practical use, but
                                    industry and carefulness are useless things?</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="8"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">When these women learned the work
                                    that you say they understand, did they regard it as of no
                                    practical use, and had they no intention of taking it up, or did
                                    they mean to occupy themselves in it and obtain some benefit
                                    from it? Which makes men more prudent, idleness or useful
                                    employment? Which makes men more just, work or idle discussions
                                    about supplies?</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="9"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">Besides, at present, I fancy, you
                                    don’t love these ladies and they don’t love you: you think they
                                    are a tax on you, and they see that you feel them to be a
                                    burden. And the danger in this state of things is that dislike
                                    may grow and their former gratitude fade away; but if you exert
                                    your authority and make them work, you will love them, when you
                                    find that they are profitable to you, and they will be fond of
                                    you, when they feel that you are pleased with them. Both you and
                                    they will like to recall past kindnesses and will strengthen the
                                    feeling of gratitude that these engender; thus you will be
                                    better friends and feel more at home.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="10"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">To be sure, if they were going to do
                                    something disgraceful, death would be a better fate. But in
                                    point of fact the work they understand is, as it appears, the
                                    work considered the most honourable and the most suitable for a
                                    woman; and the work that is understood is always done with the
                                    greatest ease, speed, pride and pleasure. So do not hesitate to
                                    offer them work that will yield a return both to you and to
                                    them, and probably they will welcome your proposal.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="11"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Well,
                                    well,</said> said Aristarchus, <said direct="true">your advice
                                    seems so good, <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>,
                                    that I think I shall now bring myself to borrow capital to make
                                    a start. Hitherto I have had no inclination to do so, knowing
                                    that when I had spent the loan I should not have the wherewithal
                                    to repay it.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="12"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>The consequence was that capital was
                                provided and wool purchased. The women worked during dinner and only
                                stopped at the supper hour. There were happy instead of gloomy
                                faces: suspicious glances were exchanged for pleasant smiles. They
                                loved him as a guardian and he liked them because they were useful.
                                Finally Aristarchus came to
                                    <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName> and told him
                                this with delight. <said direct="true">One objection they have to
                                    me,</said> he added: <said direct="true">I am the only member
                                    of the household who eats the bread of idleness.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="13"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Then why not tell
                                    them the story of the dog?</said> asked
                                        <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>. <said direct="true">It is said that when beasts could talk, a sheep
                                    said to her master: <said direct="false">It is strange that you
                                        give us sheep nothing but what we get from the land, though
                                        we supply you with wool and lambs and cheese, and yet you
                                        share your own food with your dog, who supplies you with
                                        none of these things.</said> The dog heard this, and
                                    said:</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="14"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge"><said direct="false" rend="merge">Of course he
                                        does. Do not I keep you from being stolen by thieves, and
                                        carried off by wolves? Why, but for my protection you
                                        couldn’t even feed for fear of being killed.</said> And so,
                                    they say, the sheep admitted the dog’s claim to preference. Do
                                    you then tell these women that you are their watch-dog and
                                    keeper, and it is due to you that they live and work in safety
                                    and comfort, with none to harm them.</said></p></div></div><div type="textpart" subtype="chapter" n="8"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="1"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>Again, on meeting an old comrade
                                after long absence he said: <said direct="true">Where do you come
                                    from, Eutherus?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">I came home when the war ended,
                                            <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>, and am
                                    now living here,</said> he replied. <said direct="true">Since
                                    we have lost our foreign property, and my father left me nothing
                                    in <placeName key="tgn,7002681">Attica</placeName>, I am forced
                                    to settle down here now and work for my living with my hands. I
                                    think it’s better than begging, especially as I have no security
                                    to offer for a loan.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="2"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">And how long will you have the
                                strength, do you think, to earn your living by your work?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Oh, not long, of course.</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">But remember, when you get old you will
                                have to spend money, and nobody will be willing to pay you for your
                                    labour.</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">True.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="3"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Then it would be
                                    better to take up some kind of work at once that will assure you
                                    a competence when you get old, and to go to somebody who is
                                    better off and wants an assistant, and get a return for your
                                    services by acting as his bailiff, helping to get in his crops
                                    and looking after his property.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="4"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">I shouldn’t like
                                    to make myself a slave,
                                        <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>.</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">But surely those who
                                    control their cities and take charge of public affairs are
                                    thought more respectable, not more slavish on that
                                    account.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="5"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Briefly,
                                            <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>, I have
                                    no inclination to expose myself to any man’s
                                    censure.</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">But, you see, Eutherus, it is by no means easy to
                                    find a post in which one is not liable to censure. Whatever one
                                    does, it is difficult to avoid mistakes, and it is difficult to
                                    escape unfair criticism even if one makes no mistakes. I wonder
                                    if you find it easy to avoid complaints entirely even from your
                                    present employers.</said></p></div></div></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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