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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" xml:lang="eng" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0032.tlg002.perseus-eng2" subtype="translation"><div type="textpart" subtype="book" n="2"><div type="textpart" subtype="chapter" n="6"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="37"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">It appears,
                                            <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>, that
                                    you are the sort of friend to help me if I am in any way
                                    qualified to make friends: but if not, you won’t make up a story
                                    to help me.</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">How do you think I shall help you best,
                                    Critobulus, by false praise, or by urging you to try to be a
                                    good man?</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="38"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">If you don’t yet see clearly, take
                                    the following cases as illustrations. Suppose that I wanted to
                                    get a shipmaster to make you his friend, and as a recommendation
                                    told him that you are a good skipper, which is untrue; and
                                    suppose that he believed me and put you in charge of his ship in
                                    spite of your not knowing how to steer it: have you any reason
                                    to hope that you would not lose the ship and your life as well?
                                    Or suppose that I falsely represented to the Assembly that you
                                    are a born general, jurist and statesman in one, and so
                                    persuaded the state to commit her fortunes to you, what do you
                                    suppose would happen to the state and to yourself under your
                                    guidance? Or again, suppose that I falsely described you to
                                    certain citizens in private as a thrifty, careful person, and
                                    persuaded them to place their affairs in your hands, wouldn’t
                                    you do them harm and look ridiculous when you came to the
                                    test?</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="39"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">Nay, Critobulus, if you want to be
                                    thought good at anything, you must try to be so; that is the
                                    quickest, the surest, the best way.<note resp="Loeb" anchored="true"><title>Cyropaedia</title> I. vi. 22.</note>
                                    You will find on reflection that every kind of virtue named
                                    among men is increased by study and practice. Such is the view I
                                    take of our duty, Critobulus. If you have anything to say
                                    against it, tell me.</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Why,
                                        <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>,</said>
                                said Critobulus, <said direct="true">I should be ashamed to
                                    contradict you, for I should be saying what is neither
                                    honourable nor true.</said></p></div></div><div type="textpart" subtype="chapter" n="7"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="1"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>To pass to another subject. The
                                distresses of his friends that arose from ignorance he tried to cure
                                by advice, those that were due to want by telling them how to help
                                one another according to their power. On this subject too I will
                                state what I know about him.<milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>One day,
                                noticing that Aristarchus looked glum, he said: <said direct="true">Aristarchus, you seem to have a burden on your mind. You should
                                    let your friends share it; possibly we may do something to ease
                                    you.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="2"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Ah yes,
                                            <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>,</said>
                                replied Aristarchus, <said direct="true">I am in great distress.
                                    Since the revolution there has been an exodus to the <placeName key="perseus,Piraeus">Piraeus</placeName>, and a crowd of my
                                    women-folk, being left behind, are come to me, — sisters, nieces
                                    and cousins, — so that we are fourteen in the house without
                                    counting the slaves. We get nothing from our land, because our
                                    enemies have seized it, and nothing from our house property, now
                                    there are so few residents in the city. Portable property finds
                                    no buyers, and it’s quite impossible to borrow money anywhere: I
                                    really think a search in the street would have better result
                                    than an application for a loan. It’s hard,
                                            <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>, to let
                                    one’s people die, but impossible to keep so many in times like
                                    these.</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>When
                                        <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName> heard this,
                                he asked:</p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="3"><p><said direct="true">How is it that with so many mouths to feed
                                    Ceramon not only contrives to provide for the needs of himself
                                    and his family, but actually saves enough to make him a rich
                                    man, whereas you, with so many mouths to feed, fear you will all
                                    be starved to death?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">The explanation, of course, is this: my dependants
                                    are gentlefolk, his are slaves.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="4"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">And which do you
                                    think are the better, his slaves or your
                                    gentlefolk?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">My gentlefolk, I think.</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Then is it not
                                    disgraceful that you with your gentlefolk should be in distress,
                                    while he is kept in affluence by his meaner
                                    household?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Of course his dependants are artisans, while mine
                                    have had a liberal education.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="5"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">What is an
                                    artisan? one who knows how to produce something
                                    useful?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>Certainly.<milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Are groats useful?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Yes, very.</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">And bread?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>No less so.<milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">What about men’s and women’s cloaks, shirts,
                                    capes, smocks?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Yes, all these things too are very
                                    useful.</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Then don’t the members of your household know how
                                    to make any of these?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">I believe they can make all of
                                    them.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="6"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Don’t you know,
                                    then, that by manufacturing one of these commodities, namely
                                    groats, Nausicydes keeps not only himself and his family, but
                                    large herds of swine and cattle as well, and has so much to
                                    spare that he often undertakes costly public duties; that
                                    Cyrebus feeds his whole family well and lives in luxury by
                                    baking bread, Demeas of Collytus by making capes, Menon by
                                    making cloaks; and most of the Megarians make a good living out
                                    of smocks?</said><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Yes, of course; for they buy foreign slaves and
                                    can force them to make what is convenient, but my household is
                                    made up of gentlefolk and relations.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="7"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">And so, just
                                    because they are gentlefolk and related to you, you think they
                                    should do nothing but eat and sleep? Do you find that other
                                    gentlefolk who live this sort of life are better off and happier
                                    than those who are usefully employed in work that they
                                    understand? Or is it your experience that idleness and
                                    carelessness help men to learn what they ought to know and
                                    remember what they learn, to make themselves healthy and strong,
                                    and to get and keep things that are of practical use, but
                                    industry and carefulness are useless things?</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="8"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">When these women learned the work
                                    that you say they understand, did they regard it as of no
                                    practical use, and had they no intention of taking it up, or did
                                    they mean to occupy themselves in it and obtain some benefit
                                    from it? Which makes men more prudent, idleness or useful
                                    employment? Which makes men more just, work or idle discussions
                                    about supplies?</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="9"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">Besides, at present, I fancy, you
                                    don’t love these ladies and they don’t love you: you think they
                                    are a tax on you, and they see that you feel them to be a
                                    burden. And the danger in this state of things is that dislike
                                    may grow and their former gratitude fade away; but if you exert
                                    your authority and make them work, you will love them, when you
                                    find that they are profitable to you, and they will be fond of
                                    you, when they feel that you are pleased with them. Both you and
                                    they will like to recall past kindnesses and will strengthen the
                                    feeling of gratitude that these engender; thus you will be
                                    better friends and feel more at home.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="10"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">To be sure, if they were going to do
                                    something disgraceful, death would be a better fate. But in
                                    point of fact the work they understand is, as it appears, the
                                    work considered the most honourable and the most suitable for a
                                    woman; and the work that is understood is always done with the
                                    greatest ease, speed, pride and pleasure. So do not hesitate to
                                    offer them work that will yield a return both to you and to
                                    them, and probably they will welcome your proposal.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="11"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/><said direct="true">Well,
                                    well,</said> said Aristarchus, <said direct="true">your advice
                                    seems so good, <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>,
                                    that I think I shall now bring myself to borrow capital to make
                                    a start. Hitherto I have had no inclination to do so, knowing
                                    that when I had spent the loan I should not have the wherewithal
                                    to repay it.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="12"><p><milestone unit="para" ed="P"/>The consequence was that capital was
                                provided and wool purchased. The women worked during dinner and only
                                stopped at the supper hour. There were happy instead of gloomy
                                faces: suspicious glances were exchanged for pleasant smiles. They
                                loved him as a guardian and he liked them because they were useful.
                                Finally Aristarchus came to
                                    <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName> and told him
                                this with delight. <said direct="true">One objection they have to
                                    me,</said> he added: <said direct="true">I am the only member
                                    of the household who eats the bread of idleness.</said></p></div></div></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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