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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg021.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="89" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For I think that I now see the point from which I strayed. I was speaking in reply to
          those who reproach us with the misfortunes of the Melians and of villages with like
          populations, not meaning that we had done no wrong in these instances, but trying to show
          that those who are the idols of these speakers have laid waste more and greater cities
          than the Athenians have done, in which connection I discussed the virtues of Agamemnon and
          Menelaus and Nestor, saying nothing that was not true, though passing, mayhap, the bounds
          of moderation. </p></div><div n="90" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But I did this, supposing that it would be apparent that there could be no greater crime
          than that of those who dared lay waste the cities which bred and reared such great men,
          about whom even now one might say many noble things. But it is perhaps foolish to linger
          upon a single point, as if there were any lack, as if there were not, on the contrary, a
          superabundance of things to say about the cruelty and the harshness of the Lacedaemonians.
        </p></div><div n="91" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> For the Lacedaemonians were not satisfied with wronging these cities and men of this
          character, but treated in the same way those who had set out with them from the same
          country, joined with them in the same expedition, and shared with them the same
            perils<note anchored="true" resp="ed">In the Trojan War.</note>—I mean the Argives and
          the Messenians. For they determined to plunge these also into the very same misfortunes
          which had been visited upon their former victims.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The
            distinction—not altogether clear—is between the older and the later inhabitants.</note>
          They did not cease laying siege to the Messenians until they had driven them from their
          territory, and with the same object they are even now making war upon the Argives.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">For the conquest of <placeName key="perseus,Messene">Messene</placeName> see <bibl n="Isoc. 6.26">Isoc. 6.26 ff.</bibl> The Spartans and
            Argives were almost always at war. See <bibl n="Isoc. 5.51">Isoc. 5.51</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="92" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Furthermore, it would be strange if, having spoken of these wrongs, I failed to mention
          their treatment of the Plataeans. It was on the soil of <placeName key="perseus,Plataea">Plataea</placeName> that the Lacedaemonians had encamped with us and with the other
          allies, drawn up for battle against our enemies;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The battle
            of <placeName key="perseus,Plataea">Plataea</placeName> was the final, decisive battle
            of the Persian Wars.</note> there they had offered sacrifices to the deities worshipped
          by the Plataeans;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Thuc. 2.71-72">Thuc.
              2.71-72</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="93" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>and there we had won freedom, not only for the Hellenes who fought with us, but also for
          those who were compelled to be on the side of the Persians,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The Greek cities on the Asiatic seaboard, which had been subject to <placeName key="tgn,7000231">Persia</placeName>.</note> and we accomplished this with the help of
          the Plataeans, who alone of the Boeotians fought with us in that war.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The Thebans had “Medized.” The Plataeans in this battle acquitted themselves
            well; according to Plutarch (<bibl n="Plut. Arist. 20">Plut. Arist. 20</bibl>), they
            were awarded the meed of valor. Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 14.57">Isoc. 14.57 ff.</bibl></note>
          And yet, after no great interval of time, the Lacedaemonians, to gratify <placeName key="perseus,Thebes">Thebes</placeName>,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 14.62">Isoc. 14.62</bibl>.</note> reduced the Plataeans by siege and put them
          all to the sword with the exception of those who had been able to escape through their
            lines.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">This was done by King Archidamus, who in the
            course of the Peloponnesian War besieged and took <placeName key="perseus,Plataea">Plataea</placeName>, 427 b.c. The walls of the town were razed, the women and
            children sold into slavery, the defenders slain, excepting some two hundred who escaped
            and found refuge in <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>. See <bibl n="Thuc. 3.57">Thuc. 3.57 ff.</bibl></note> Little did Athens resemble <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> in the treatment of these peoples; </p></div><div n="94" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>for, while the Lacedaemonians did not scruple to commit such wrongs both against the
          benefactors of <placeName key="tgn,1000074">Hellas</placeName> and against their own
            kinsmen,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Fellow-Dorians.</note> our ancestors, on the
          other hand, gave the surviving Messenians a home in <placeName key="tgn,7011174">Naupactus</placeName><note anchored="true" resp="ed">On the Corinthian gulf. For this
            event see <bibl n="Thuc. 1.103">Thuc. 1.103</bibl></note> and adopted the Plataeans who
          had escaped with their lives as Athenian citizens and shared with them all the privileges
          which they themselves enjoyed.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 4">Isoc.
              4</bibl>, note.</note> So that if we had nothing else to say about these two cities,
          it is easy to judge from these instances what was the character of each and which of the
          two laid waste more and greater cities. </p></div><div n="95" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> I perceive that my feelings are changing to the opposite of those which I described a
          little while ago. For then I fell into a state of doubt and perplexity and forgetfulness,
          but now I realize clearly that I am not keeping the mildness of speech which I had when I
          began to write my discourse; on the contrary, I am venturing to discuss matters about
          which I did not think that I should speak, I am more aggressive in temper than is my wont,
          and I am losing control over some of the things which I utter because of the multitude of
          things which rush into my mind to say. </p></div><div n="96" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Since, however, the impulse has come to me to speak frankly and I have removed the curb
          from my tongue, and since I took a subject which is of such a character that it is neither
          honorable nor possible to leave out the kind of facts from which it can be proved that our
          city has been of greater service to the Hellenes than <placeName key="tgn,7011065">Lacedaemon</placeName>, I must not be silent either about the other wrongs which have
          not yet been told, albeit they have been done among the Hellenes, but must show that our
          ancestors have been slow pupils<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 12.101">Isoc. 12.101</bibl>.</note> in wrong-doing, whereas the Lacedaemonians have in some
          respects been the first to point the way and in others have been the sole offenders. </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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