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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg021.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="261" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And you will deserve this reward; for you have extolled both these cities well and
          fittingly—Athens, according to the acclaim of the majority, which no man of note has ever
          disdained, while all men in their craving to obtain it are ready to submit themselves to
          any hazard whatsoever; but <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>, according
          to the reasoning of those who endeavor to aim at the truth, whose good opinion some would
          choose in preference to that of all the rest of the world, even were mankind to number
          twice as many as now. </p></div><div n="262" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> “I am insatiable in my desire to speak on the present occasion and I still have many
          things which I might say concerning you and these two cities and your discourse, but I
          shall forgo these subjects and declare myself only upon the question about which, as you
          say, you called me in to advise you. I counsel you, then, not to burn or to suppress your
          discourse, but—if there be any need of so doing—to revise and supplement it and then give
          to those who desire it the benefit of all the time and pains which you have spent upon its
          composition, </p></div><div n="263" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>if indeed you wish to gratify the worthiest among the Hellenes—those who are in truth
          devoted to culture and do not merely pretend to it—and to annoy those who secretly admire
          your writings above all others but malign your discourses before the crowds at the
          national festivals, in which those who sleep outnumber those who listen;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 5.12">Isoc. 5.12</bibl>.</note> for these
          speakers hope that if only they can hoodwink such audiences their own compositions will
          rival yours in popular favour, little realizing that their work is farther below the level
          of yours than the poets who have essayed to compose in the manner of Homer fall short of
          his reputation.” </p></div><div n="264" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> When he had said these things and had asked those present to express their opinion on
          the question about which they had been called in, they did not merely accord him the
          applause with which they were wont to greet a clever speech but signified by tumultuous
          shouts that he had spoken excellently; they crowded around him, praised him, envied him,
          congratulated him, and found nothing to add to what he had said or to subtract therefrom,
          but showed that they were of his opinion and advised me to do the very thing which he had
          urged. </p></div><div n="265" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Nor did I, for my part, stand silently by; on the contrary, I praised both his native
          ability and his training, although beyond that I uttered not a word about the sentiments
          which he had expressed, as to how his conjecture had hit upon my purpose or missed the
          mark, but let him remain of the same opinion which he had formed for himself. </p></div><div n="266" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Now as to the subject which I undertook to discuss, I think that I have said enough; for
          to review in detail the points which have been made<note anchored="true" resp="ed">As at
            the close of the <title>Address to Philip</title>.</note> not in keeping with discourses
          such as this. But I do wish to relate my personal experiences in relation to its
          composition. </p></div><div n="267" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>I entered upon it at the age which I have already stated at the beginning.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 12.3">Isoc. 12.3</bibl>.</note> But when I
          had written half of it, I was attacked by a malady which it is not decorous to name,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Coray conjectures that the malady was dysentery.</note> but
          which is powerful enough to carry off in the course of three or four days not only older
          people but many in the prime of life. I battled against this disease without respite for
          three years, and I passed every day of that time with such devotion to my work that those
          who knew of my industry as well as those who learned of it from them admired me more
          because of this fortitude than because of the things for which I had formerly been
          praised. </p></div><div n="269" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>When, however, I had at length given up my work both because of my illness and of my age,
          certain of those who were in the habit of paying me visits, and who had read again and
          again the portion of my discourse which I had written, begged and urged me not to leave it
          half-finished or incomplete, but to work upon it for a short time and to give my thoughts
          to what remained to be done. </p></div><div n="269a" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>They did speak as men do who perfunctorily acquit themselves of a duty, but praised
          extravagantly what I had written, saying about it such things that if any people had heard
          them who were not my personal friends and kindly disposed towards me, they could not
          possibly have failed to suppose that my visitors were trying to make a fool of me and that
          I had lost my wits and was altogether a simpleton if I allowed myself to be persuaded of
          what they said. </p></div><div n="270" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But, although I had this feeling about the things which they made bold to state, I did
          allow myself to be persuaded (for why make a long story of it?) to occupy myself with the
          completion of the discourse, at a time when I lacked but three years of having lived a
          century and when I was in a state of infirmity such that anyone else similarly afflicted,
          so far from undertaking to write a discourse of his own, would not even be willing to
          listen to one worked out and submitted by another. </p></div><div n="271" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Why, then, have I gone into these matters? Not because I think that I should ask
          indulgence for the things which I have discussed—for I do not feel that I have spoken of
          them in a manner to require this—but because I desire both to relate my personal
          experiences and to commend those among my hearers who not only applaud this speech but
          prefer, as more weighty and more worthy of serious study, discourses which are composed
          for instruction and, at the same time, with finished art<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Such as this discourse or the <title>Panegyricus</title>. See <bibl n="Isoc. 4.11">Isoc. 4.11</bibl>.</note> to others which are written for display or for the
            law-courts,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Speeches which were written for
            display—epideictic oratory—are composed with finish but are not instructive. See General
            Introduction. Speeches written for the law-courts, on the other hand, lack the
            refinements of style and aim to pervert the truth. See General Introduction.</note> and
          who prefer for the same reason discourses which aim at the truth to those which seek to
          lead astray the opinions of their auditors, and discourses which rebuke our faults and
            admonish<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Such as the <bibl n="Isoc. 8">Isoc. 8</bibl>.
            See <bibl n="Isoc. 15.62">Isoc. 15.62</bibl>.</note> us to those which are spoken for
          our pleasure and gratification.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 2.54">Isoc. 2.54</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="272" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>I desire, on the other hand, to warn those of my hearers who are of a mind contrary to
          these, in the first place, not to trust in their own opinions nor to regard as true the
          judgements which are pronounced by the lazy-minded and, in the second place, not to
          publish hastily their views on things which they do not understand, but to wait until they
          can find themselves in accord with men who have much experience of matters submitted to
          them for judgement;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Literally, “experience of things
            shown.” Others render “experience in epideictic oratory.”</note> for if they will so
          govern their thoughts, no one can fail to approve their discretion.</p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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