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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg021.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="249" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>It would not, then, be surprising if something of the sort has come to pass in the
          present instance, where you think that you will gain the greatest credit if you conceal
          for the longest possible time the purpose you had in mind when you worked out your
          discourse, whereas I think that you will best succeed if you can with the least possible
          delay publish the thought by which you were governed when you composed it to all the world
          and especially to the Lacedaemonians, whom you have often discussed, sometimes with
          fairness and dignity, but then again with recklessness and extreme captiousness. </p></div><div n="250" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> “For if one were to show them a discourse of the latter sort before I had explained it
          to them, they would inevitably hate you and dislike you for having written in denunciation
          of them. As it is, I think that while most of the Lacedaemonians will continue to abide in
          the ways to which they have been faithful in past times and will pay no more attention to
          what is written in <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> than to what is said
          beyond the Pillars of Heracles, </p></div><div n="251" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>yet the most intelligent among them, who possess and admire certain of your writings,
          will not misapprehend anything of what is said in this discourse if they can find someone
          who will interpret it to them, and if they can take the time to ponder over it by
          themselves; on the contrary, they will appreciate the praise given to their own city,
          which is based on proof, while they will dismiss with contempt the abuse, which is uttered
          at random with no regard to the facts, and is offensive only in the words employed; and
          they will think that envy slipped in the calumnies which are found in your treatise, </p></div><div n="252" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>but that you have recorded the exploits and the battles in which they themselves take
          great pride and because of which they enjoy a high repute with the rest of the world, and
          that you have made these achievements memorable by collecting them all and placing them
          side by side with each other and so have brought it about that many of the Spartans long
          to read and peruse your accounts of them, not because they crave to hear of their own
          deeds, </p></div><div n="253" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>but because they wish to hear how you have dealt with them. And as they think and dwell
          upon these deeds, they will not fail to recall also those ancient exploits through which
          you have glorified their ancestors,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See 239 note.</note>
          but will often talk of them amongst themselves; and first of all they will tell of the
          time when, being still Dorians, they saw their own cities to be inglorious and
          insignificant and in need of many things, and, feeling them to be unworthy, took the field
          against the leading states of the Peloponnesus—against Argos and <placeName key="tgn,7011065">Lacedaemon</placeName> and <placeName key="perseus,Messene">Messene</placeName>— </p></div><div n="254" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>conquered them in battle and drove the vanquished both from their cities and from their
          lands, and seized for themselves at that time all the possessions of the enemy and have
          continued to hold them to this day. And no man can point to a greater or a more marvellous
          achievement in those times nor to an enterprise more fortunate or more blessed of the gods
          than that which delivered those who engaged in it from their own poverty and placed them
          in possession of the prosperity of others. </p></div><div n="255" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> “These were victories won with the aid of all who joined in that expedition. But after
          they had divided the territory with the Argives and the Messenians and for themselves had
          settled in Sparta—at this juncture, as you say, they were so proud that although they then
          numbered no more than two thousand men<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The Spartans at the
            time of the Persian Wars numbered eight thousand according to <bibl n="Hdt. 7.234">Hdt.
              7.234</bibl>. Aristotle (<bibl n="Aristot. Pol. 2.1273b">Aristot. Pol. 2.9</bibl>)
            states that in his day there were hardly one thousand.</note> they considered themselves
          unworthy to live unless they could make themselves masters of all the cities in the
            <placeName key="tgn,7017076">Peloponnesus</placeName>. </p></div><div n="256" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>In this state of mind, they undertook to wage war and did not cease, albeit they were
          involved in many misadventures and dangers, before they had reduced them all to
          subjection, except the city of the Argives. But when at length they held the greatest
          territory and the strongest power in <placeName key="tgn,1000074">Hellas</placeName> and a
          reputation appropriate to men who had achieved such mighty things, they continued no less
          to pride themselves upon the fact that they could boast of a record unique and glorious:
        </p></div><div n="257" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>for they, alone of the Hellenes, could say that, albeit so few in number, they had never
          followed the lead or done the bidding of any one of the populous states, but had
          throughout been free and independent; and that they themselves in the war against the
          barbarians had held the place of leadership among all the Hellenes and had attained this
          honor, not without good reason, but because they had fought more battles than any other
          people in those times and had never been defeated in any one of them, when a king led them
          forth to battle, but had been victorious in all. </p></div><div n="258" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And no one could urge a stronger proof than this of their valor and their hardihood and
          of their concord amongst themselves, except that which I shall now mention: for of all the
          other Hellenic states, many as they are, no man could cite or find a single one which has
          not been involved in the misadventures which are wont to happen to states, </p></div><div n="259" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>whereas in the city of the Spartans no one can show an instance of civil faction or
          slaughter or unlawful exile, nor of seizure of property or outrage to women and children,
          nor even of revolution or abolition of debts or redistribution of lands, nor of any other
          of the irreparable ills.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Almost quoted from <bibl n="Isoc. 15.127">Isoc. 15.127</bibl>.</note> And as the Spartans review these facts,
          they cannot fail to remember you also, who have collected them and discoursed upon them so
          ably, and to be most grateful to you. </p></div><div n="260" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> “But I do not now have the same feeling about you as I had formerly. For in time past I
          admired your natural endowments and the manner in which you ordered your life and your
          devotion to work and above all the truth of your teaching, but now I envy and congratulate
          you because of your good fortune. For it seems to me that during your lifetime you will
          gain a reputation, not greater than you deserve—for that would be difficult—but one more
          widely extended and more heartily acknowledged than that which you now possess, and that
          after you have ceased to live you will partake of immortality,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 1.38">Isoc. 1.38</bibl> and note; <bibl n="Isoc. 2.37">Isoc. 2.37</bibl>; <bibl n="Isoc. 5.134">Isoc. 5.134</bibl>.</note> not the
          immortality which the gods enjoy, but that which plants in future generations a
          remembrance of those who have distinguished themselves in any noble endeavor. </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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