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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg021.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="153" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> I acknowledge that I am going to speak at length of the institutions of <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>, not taking the view, however, that Lycurgus
          invented or conceived any of them, but that he imitated as well as he could the government
          of our ancestors,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 4.39">Isoc.
              4.39</bibl> and note.</note> establishing among the Spartans a democracy tempered with
          aristocracy—even such as existed in <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>—,
          enacting that the offices be filled, not by lot, but by election, </p></div><div n="154" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>ordaining that the election of the Elders, who were to supervise all public affairs,
          should be conducted with the very same care as, they say, our ancestors also exercised
          with regard to those who were to have seats in the Areopagus, and, furthermore, conferring
          upon the Elders<note anchored="true" resp="ed">For the Spartan Gerousia, Council of
            Elders, see Gilbert, <title>Greek Constitutional Antiquities</title> p. 47.</note> the
          very same power which he knew that the Council of the Areopagus also had in <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>. </p></div><div n="155" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Now that the institutions of <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> were
          established after the manner of our own as they were in ancient times may be learned from
          many sources by those who desire to know the truth. But that skill in warfare is something
          which the Spartans did not practise earlier than our ancestors or employ to better
          advantage than they I think I can show so clearly from the struggles and the wars which
          are acknowledged to have taken place in those days that none will be able to contradict
          what I say—neither those who are blind worshippers of <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> nor those who at once admire and envy and strive to imitate the ways
          of Athens. </p></div><div n="156" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> I am going to begin what I shall say on this topic with a statement which will perhaps
          be unpleasant for some to hear, although it will not be without profit to have it said.
          For if anyone were to assert that Athens and <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> had been the causes both of the greatest benefits and, after the
          expedition of Xerxes, of the greatest injuries to the Hellenes, without doubt he would be
          thought by those who know anything about the history of those times to speak the truth.
        </p></div><div n="157" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For they contended with the utmost possible bravery against the power of that King, but,
          having done this, although they ought then to have adopted sound measures also for the
          tasks which followed upon that achievement, they fell into such a degree, not of folly,
          but of madness, that they made peace with the man who had led an army against them and who
          had purposed to annihilate both these cities utterly and to enslave the rest of the
          Hellenes— </p></div><div n="158" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>with such a man, I repeat, although they could easily have conquered him on both land and
          sea, they drew up a peace<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The Peace of Antalcidas.</note>
          for all time, as though he had been their benefactor, whereas, having grown jealous of
          each other's merits and fallen into mutual warfare and rivalry, they did not cease
          attempting to destroy each other and the rest of the Hellenes until they had placed their
          common enemy in a position to reduce Athens, through the power of the Lacedaemonians, and
          again <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>, through the power of Athens, to
          a state of the utmost peril. </p></div><div n="159" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And although they were so far outstripped in shrewdness by the barbarian, they then
          experienced no such resentment as the things which they suffered should have provoked nor
          such as it behoved them to feel; nor at the present time are the greatest of the states of
            <placeName key="tgn,1000074">Hellas</placeName> ashamed to vie with each other in
          fawning upon the wealth of the King; nay, <placeName key="perseus,Argos">Argos</placeName>
          and <placeName key="perseus,Thebes">Thebes</placeName> joined forces with him in the
          conquest of <placeName key="tgn,7016833">Egypt</placeName><note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 4.161">Isoc. 4.161</bibl>, note.</note> in order that he might be
          possessed of the greatest possible power to plot against the Hellenes, while we and the
          Spartans, although allied together, feel more hostile to each other than to those with
          whom we are each openly at war. </p></div><div n="160" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And of this we have a not insignificant proof. For in common we deliberate about nothing
          whatsoever, but independently we each send ambassadors to the King, expecting that the one
          of these two states to which he inclines in friendship will be invested with the place of
          advantage among the Hellenes,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See General
            Introduction.</note> little realizing that those who court his favour he is wont to
          treat insolently while with those who oppose themselves to him and hold his power in
          contempt he endeavors by every means to come to terms.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf.
              <bibl n="Isoc. 4.154">Isoc. 4.154-155</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="161" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> I have gone into these matters,not without realizing that some will dare to say that I
          have here used an argument which lies beyond the scope of my subject. I, however, hold
          that never has an argument been advanced more pertinent than this to the foregoing
          discussion, neither is there any by which one can show more clearly that our ancestors
          were wiser in dealing with the greatest questions than were those who governed our city
          and the city of the Spartans after the war against Xerxes. </p></div><div n="162" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For it will be seen that these states in the times following that war made peace with the
          barbarians, that they were bent on destroying each other and the other Hellenic states,
          that at the present time they think themselves worthy to rule over the Hellenes, albeit
          they are sending ambassadors to the King, courting his friendship and alliance; whereas
          those who governed Athens before that time did nothing of the sort, but entirely the
          opposite; </p></div><div n="163" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>for they were as firmly resolved to keep their hands off the states of <placeName key="tgn,1000074">Hellas</placeName> as were the devout to abstain from the treasures
          stored up in the temples of the gods, conceiving that, second only to the war which we
          carry on in alliance with all mankind against the savagery of the beasts, that war is the
          most necessary and the most righteous which we wage in alliance with the Hellenes against
          the barbarians, who are by nature our foes and are eternally plotting against us. </p></div><div n="164" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> The principle is not of my invention but is deduced from the conduct of our ancestors.
          For when they saw that the other states were beset by many misfortunes and wars and
          seditions, while their own city alone was well governed, they did not take the view that
          those who were wiser and more fortunate than the rest of the world were justified in
          caring nothing about the others or in permitting those states which shared the same
            stock<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The reference is to Athens, an Ionian state, as
            leader of the Ionian Colonization. The looseness of structure in this discourse is shown
            by his treatment of this theme in three places, in 42 ff. and in 190 ff. as well as
            here. Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 4.34">Isoc. 4.34-37</bibl>.</note> with them to be destroyed,
          but rather that they were bound to take thought and adopt measures to deliver them all
          from their present misfortunes. </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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