<GetPassage xmlns:tei="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" xmlns="http://chs.harvard.edu/xmlns/cts">
            <request>
                <requestName>GetPassage</requestName>
                <requestUrn>urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg019.perseus-eng2:183-185</requestUrn>
            </request>
            <reply>
                <urn>urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg019.perseus-eng2:183-185</urn>
                <passage>
                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg019.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="183" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> For when they take their pupils in hand, the physical trainers instruct their followers
          in the postures which have been devised for bodily contests, while the teachers of
          philosophy impart all the forms of discourse in which the mind expresses itself. </p></div><div n="184" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Then, when they have made them familiar and thoroughly conversant with these lessons,
          they set them at exercises, habituate them to work, and require them to combine in
          practice the particular things which they have learned, in order that they may grasp them
          more firmly and bring their theories into closer touch with the occasions for applying
          them—I say “theories,” for no system of knowledge can possibly cover these occasions,
          since in all cases they elude our science.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The distinction
            usually drawn, in Plato for instance, between <foreign xml:lang="grc">DO/CA</foreign>
            and <foreign xml:lang="grc">E)PISTH/MH</foreign>, the one “opinion,” the other
            “knowledge,” is not exactly that made by Isocrates. <foreign xml:lang="grc">DO/CA</foreign> is here, not irresponsible opinion, but a working theory based on
            practical experience—judgement or insight in dealing with the uncertain contingencies of
            any human situation which presents itself. In this realm, he holds, there can be no
            exact science. Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 15.271">Isoc. 15.271</bibl>; <bibl n="Isoc. 13.1">Isoc. 13.1-3</bibl>. See General Introd. pp. xxii, xxvii.</note> Yet those who most
          apply their minds to them and are able to discern the consequences which for the most part
          grow out of them, will most often meet these occasions in the right way. </p></div><div n="185" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Watching over them and training them in this manner, both the teachers of gymnastic and
          the teachers of discourse are able to advance their pupils to a point where they are
          better men and where they are stronger in their thinking or in the use of their bodies.
          However, neither class of teachers is in possession of a science by which they can make
          capable athletes or capable orators out of whomsoever they please. They can contribute in
          some degree to these results, but these powers are never found in their perfection save in
          those who excel by virtue both of talent and of training.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">For Isocrates' view as to the elements which produce the successful orator see General
            Introd. p. xxiv.</note>
        </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
                </passage>
            </reply>
            </GetPassage>