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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg017.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="81" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>I fear, therefore, since you are of such a mind, that if I attempt to benefit you I may
          myself reap a poor reward. Nevertheless, I am not going to refrain entirely from saying
          the things which I had in mind but shall pass over the most severe and, mayhap, the most
          painful to you and recall to your minds only the facts by which you will recognize the
          folly of the men who at that time governed the city. </p></div><div n="82" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> For so exactly did they gauge<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Ironical. He means that
            they mastered the science of making themselves unpopular.</note> the actions by which
          human beings incur the worst odium that they passed a decree to divide the surplus of the
          funds derived from the tributes of the allies into talents and to bring it on the
            stage,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">That is, the theoric fund. See <bibl n="Isoc. 8.13">Isoc. 8.13</bibl>, note. The point of the division into talents is
            obscure. Perhaps one talent was distributed at each festival.</note> when the theatre
          was full, at the festival of Dionysus<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The “Greater
            Dionysia,” celebrated in March.</note>; and not only was this done but at the same time
          they led in upon the stage the sons of those who had lost their lives in the war,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The state brought them up at public expense until they were of
            age for citizenship, at which time they were led before the concourse of the people in
            the theatre and bidden God speed! See <bibl n="Aeschin. 3.154">Aeschin.
            3.154</bibl>.</note> seeking thus to display to our allies,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">It appears that the “tribute” money of the allies during the Confederacy of
              <placeName key="perseus,Delos">Delos</placeName> was brought to Athens by their
            representatives at the time of the Dionysiac festival. See <bibl n="Aristoph. Ach. 505">Aristoph. Ach. 505, 643</bibl>. Besides, the festival attracted many unofficial
            visitors from the other states.</note> on the one hand, the value of their own
            property<note anchored="true" resp="ed">That is, the value we attach to it—how we honor
            their contributions.</note> which was brought in by hirelings,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The text clearly means “brought in by paid men.” But <foreign xml:lang="grc">misqwtoi/</foreign> may be either paid servants or paid soldiers. The former meaning
            is generally preferred by the editors because only in a loose sense could it be said
            that the tribute was brought in by mercenaries; besides, the present tense is employed.
            Nevertheless the reader will think of the hirelings mentioned just before (in 79) with
            whom the Athenians manned their triremes and through whom they forced the payment of the
            tribute, and doubtless the author so intended.</note> and to the rest of the Hellenes,
          on the other, the multitude of the fatherless and the misfortunes which result from this
          policy of aggression. </p></div><div n="83" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And in doing this they themselves counted the city happy, while many of the simple-minded
          deemed it blessed, taking no thought whatsoever for future consequences but admiring and
          envying the wealth which flowed into the city unjustly and which was soon to destroy also
          that which justly belonged to it. </p></div><div n="84" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For they reached such a degree of neglect of their own possessions and of covetousness of
          the possessions of other states that when the Lacedaemonians had invaded our territory and
          the fortifications at Decelea<note anchored="true" resp="ed">This strong position on the
            slope of Mt. Parnes in <placeName key="tgn,7002681">Attica</placeName> was seized and
            fortified by the Spartans as an outpost from which to raid Athenian territory in <date when="-0413">413 B.C.</date></note> had already been built, they manned triremes to
          send to <placeName key="tgn,7003122">Sicily</placeName><note anchored="true" resp="ed">The
            original expedition to <placeName key="tgn,7003122">Sicily</placeName> was dispatched in
              <date when="-0415">415 B.C.</date> Strong reinforcements were, however, sent at the
            time Decelea was fortified by the Spartans. See <bibl n="Thuc. 7.20">Thuc.
            7.20</bibl>.</note> and were not ashamed to permit their own country to be cut off and
            plundered<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 8.92">Isoc.
            8.92</bibl>.</note> by the enemy while dispatching an expedition against a people who
          had never in any respect offended against us. </p></div><div n="85" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Nay, they arrived at such a pitch of folly that at a time when they were not masters of
          their own suburbs<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Decelea was 14 miles from Athens, but the
            Athenians kept within their walls, and the Spartans ravaged thier territory almost at
            will. See <bibl n="Thuc. 7.19">Thuc. 7.19 ff.</bibl></note> they expected to extend
          their power over <placeName key="tgn,1000080">Italy</placeName> and <placeName key="tgn,7003122">Sicily</placeName> and <placeName key="perseus,Carthage">Carthage</placeName>.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Thucydides makes Alcibiades voice
            the expectation of conquering first <placeName key="tgn,7003122">Sicily</placeName>,
            then <placeName key="tgn,1000080">Italy</placeName>, and then <placeName key="perseus,Carthage">Carthage</placeName>. See <bibl n="Thuc. 6.90">Thuc.
              6.90</bibl>.</note> And so far did they outdo all mankind in recklessness that whereas
          misfortunes chasten others and render them more prudent our fathers learned no lessons
          even from this discipline. </p></div><div n="86" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And yet they were involved in more and greater disasters in the time of the empire<note anchored="true" resp="ed">So also <bibl n="Thuc. 1.23">Thuc. 1.23</bibl>.</note> than
          have ever befallen Athens in all the rest of her history. Two hundred ships which set sail
          for <placeName key="tgn,7016833">Egypt</placeName> perished with their crews,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">These were sent to aid Inarus of <placeName key="tgn,7016833">Egypt</placeName> in his revolt against <placeName key="tgn,7000231">Persia</placeName>, <date when="-0460">460 B.C.</date> See <bibl n="Thuc. 1.104">Thuc. 1.104 ff.</bibl></note> and a hundred and fifty off the island of <placeName key="tgn,1000112">Cyprus</placeName>;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Thucydides (<bibl n="Thuc. 1.112">Thuc. 1.112</bibl>) speaks of a fleet of 200 ships of which 60 were
            sent to <placeName key="tgn,7016833">Egypt</placeName>, the remainder under Cimon laying
            siege to <placeName key="tgn,7016636">Citium</placeName> in <placeName key="tgn,1000112">Cyprus</placeName>. This expedition, though expensive in the loss of men and money,
            was not disastrous like the former.</note> in the Decelean War<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The text is very uncertain. The reading of the <placeName key="tgn,7011781">London</placeName> papyrus is at least preferable since the loss of 10,000 hoplites
            (unless a hopeless exaggeration) cannot be accounted for if the reading of <foreign xml:lang="grc">*g*e</foreign> or that of the other MSS. is adopted. See Laistner in
              <title>Classical Quarterly</title> xv. p. 81. At the beginning of the Peloponnesian
            War (according to <bibl n="Thuc. 2.13">Thuc. 2.13</bibl>), the Athenian heavy-armed
            troops numbered but 29,000. Later (according to <bibl n="Dem. 25.51">Dem. 25.51</bibl>),
            the whole body of Athenian citizens numbered but 20,000.</note> they lost ten thousand
          heavy armed troops of their own and of their allies, and in <placeName key="tgn,7003122">Sicily</placeName> forty thousand men and two hundred and forty ships,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Diodorus (<bibl n="Diod. 13.21">Dio. Sic. 13.21</bibl>) gives
            the same number of men, but 200 ships. Thucydides gives the number of ships as 209 and
            the number of men as not less than 40,000, including heavy and light armed troops,
            crews, etc. See especially <bibl n="Thuc. 7.75.5">Thuc. 7.75.5</bibl>.</note> and,
          finally, in the <placeName key="tgn,7002638">Hellespont</placeName> two hundred
            ships.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">At the battle of <placeName key="tgn,6000070">Aegospotami</placeName> in <date when="-0405">405 B.C.</date>, the denouement of this
            tragic history. Xenophon (<bibl n="Xen. Hell. 2.1.20">Xen. Hell. 2.1.20</bibl>) and
            Diodorus (<bibl n="Diod. 13.105">Dio. Sic. 13.105</bibl>) give 180 as the number of
            ships.</note>
        </p></div><div n="87" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But of the ships which were lost in fleets of ten or five or more and of the men who were
          slain in armies of a thousand or two thousand who could tell the tale? In a word, it was
          at that time a matter of regular routine to hold public funerals<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 4.74">Isoc. 4.74</bibl>, note.</note> every year, which
          many both of our neighbors and of the other Hellenes used to attend, not to grieve with us
          for the dead, but to rejoice together at our misfortunes. </p></div><div n="88" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And at last, before they knew it, they had filled the public burial-grounds<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The Ceramicus.</note> with the bodies of their fellow citizens
          and the registers of the phratries and of the state<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf.
              <bibl n="Isoc. 8.50">Isoc. 8.50</bibl>. All citizens were duly enrolled in the phratry
            registers, <foreign xml:lang="grc">fratorika\ grammatei=a</foreign> and in the state
            registers, kept in each township, <foreign xml:lang="grc">lhciarxika\
              grammatei=a</foreign>.</note> with the names of those who had no claim upon the city.
          And you may judge of the multitude of the slain from this fact: The families of the most
          illustrious Athenians and our greatest houses, which survived the civil conflicts under
          the tyrants<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Pisitratus and his sons, Hippias and
            Hipparchus. See <bibl n="Aristot. Ath. Pol. 18">Aristot. Ath. Pol. 18</bibl>.</note> and
          the Persian Wars as well, have been, you will find, entirely wiped out<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 8.4">Isoc. 8.4</bibl>.</note> under this
          empire upon which we set our hearts. </p></div><div n="89" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>So that if one desired to go into the question of what befell the rest of our citizens,
          judging by this instance, it would be seen that we have been changed, one might almost
          say, into a new people. And yet we must not count that state happy which without
          discrimination recruits from all parts of the world a large number of citizens but rather
          that state which more than all others preserves the stock of those who in the beginning
          founded it. And we ought not to emulate those who hold despotic power nor those who have
          gained a dominion which is greater than is just but rather those who, while worthy of the
          highest honors, are yet content with the honors which are tendered them by a free people.
        </p></div><div n="90" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For no man nor any state could obtain a position more excellent than this or more secure
          or of greater worth. And it was because they acquired just this position that our
          ancestors in the time of the Persian Wars did not live in the manner of freebooters, now
          having more than enough for their needs, again reduced to a state of famine and siege<note anchored="true" resp="ed">They were virtually in a state of seige after the occupation
            of Decelea by the Spartans, who cut off their food supplies.</note> and extreme
            misfortune<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The terrible plague described by Thucydides
            (i. 23; ii. 48 ff.).</note>; on the contrary, while they lived neither in want nor in
          surfeit of the means of subsistence day by day, they prided themselves on the justice of
          their polity and on their own virtues, and passed their lives more pleasantly than the
          rest of the world. </p></div><div n="91" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> But, heedless of these lessons, those who came after them desired, not to rule but to
            dominate<note anchored="true" resp="ed">That is, to rule by consent as against ruling by
            force—delegated as against irresponsible power. See <bibl n="Isoc. 4.80">Isoc. 4.80
              ff.</bibl></note>—words which are thought to have the same meaning, although between
          them there is the utmost difference. For it is the duty of those who rule to make their
            welfare,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. L. 7.4">Isoc. Letter
              7.4</bibl>.</note> whereas it is a habit of those who dominate to provide pleasures
          for themselves through the labors and hardships of others. But it is in the nature of
          things that those who attempt a despot's course must encounter the disasters which befall
          despotic power<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Described in 111-113.</note> and be
          afflicted by the very things which they inflict upon others. And it is just this which has
          happened in the case of Athens; </p></div><div n="92" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>for in place of holding the citadels of other states, her people saw the day when the
          enemy was in possession of the Acropolis<note anchored="true" resp="ed">A Spartan garrison
            occupied the Acropolis during the rule of the Thirty.</note>; in place of dragging
          children from their mothers and fathers and taking them as hostages,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">This the Athenians did at <placeName key="tgn,7002673">Samos</placeName> in
              <date when="-0440">440 B.C.</date> See <bibl n="Thuc. 1.115">Thuc.
            1.115</bibl>.</note> many of her citizens, living in a state of siege, were compelled to
          educate and support their children with less than was their due; and in place of farming
          the lands of other states,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The reference is to the
            cleruchies. See 6, note.</note> for many years<note anchored="true" resp="ed">From 413
            to <date when="-0404">404 B.C.</date></note> they were denied the opportunity of even
          setting eyes upon their own fields. </p></div><div n="93" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>If, therefore, anyone were to ask us whether we should choose to see Athens in such
          distress as the price of having ruled so long a time,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">From
            478 to <date when="-0405">405 B.C.</date></note> who could answer yes, except some
          utterly abandoned wretch who cared not for sacred matters nor for parents nor for children
          nor for any other thing save for the term of his own existence? We, however, ought not to
          emulate the judgement of such men but rather that of those who exercise great forethought
          and are no less jealous for the reputation of the state than for their own—men who prefer
          a moderate competence with justice to great wealth unjustly gained. </p></div><div n="94" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For our ancestors,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 8.90">Isoc.
              8.90</bibl>.</note> proving themselves to be men of this character, handed on the city
          to their descendants in a most prosperous condition and left behind them an imperishable
          memorial of their virtue. And from this we may easily learn a double lesson: that our soil
          is able to rear better men than the rest of the world<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf.
              <bibl n="Isoc. 7.74">Isoc. 7.74</bibl>.</note> and that what we call empire, though in
          reality it is misfortune,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Eur. Alc. 802">Eur.
              Alc. 802</bibl>: <foreign xml:lang="grc">ou)bi/os a)lhqw=s o( bi/os, a)lla\
              sumfora/</foreign>.</note> is of a nature to deprave all who have to do with it. </p></div><div n="95" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> We have a most convincing proof of this. For imperialism worked the ruin not only of
          Athens but of the city of the Lacedaemonians also, so that those who are in the habit of
          praising the virtues of <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName><note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 12.200">Isoc. 12.200</bibl>.</note> cannot
          argue that we managed our affairs badly because of our democratic government whereas if
          the Lacedaemonians had taken over the empire the results would have been happy both for
          the rest of the Hellenes and for themselves. For this power revealed its nature much more
          quickly in their case.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The Spartan supremacy lasted from
            404 to 371; the Athenian from 478 to <date when="-0405">405 B.C.</date></note> Indeed it
          brought it to pass that a polity which over a period of seven hundred years<note anchored="true" resp="ed">From the reign of Eurysthenes and Procles, about 1072, to the
            battle of Leuctra, <date when="-0371">371 B.C.</date> For the stability of the Spartan
            constitution see <bibl n="Isoc. 12.257">Isoc. 12.257</bibl>.</note> had never, so far as
          we know, been disturbed by perils or calamities was shaken and all but destroyed in a
          short space of time. </p></div><div n="96" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For in place of the ways of life established among them it filled the citizens with
          injustice, indolence, lawlessness and avarice and the commonwealth with contempt for its
          allies, covetousness of the possessions of other states, and indifference to its oaths and
          covenants. In fact they went so far beyond our ancestors in their crimes against the
          Hellenes that in addition to the evils which already afflicted the several states they
          stirred up in them slaughter and strife,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 4.110">Isoc. 4.110 ff.</bibl></note> in consequence of which their citizens
          will cherish for each other a hatred unquenchable. </p></div><div n="97" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And they became so addicted to war and the perils of war that, whereas in times past they
          had been more cautious in this regard<note anchored="true" resp="ed">An example of this
            caution is the advice of King Archidamus at the beginning of the Peloponnesian War. See
              <bibl n="Thuc. 1.80">Thuc. 1.80</bibl>.</note> than the rest of the world, they did
          not refrain from attacking even their own allies and their own benefactors; on the
          contrary, although the great King had furnished them with more than five thousand
            talents<note anchored="true" resp="ed">So also Andocides, <bibl n="Isoc. 8.29">Isoc.
              8.29</bibl>.</note> for the war against us, and although the Chians<note anchored="true" resp="ed"><placeName key="tgn,7002670">Chios</placeName> revolted from
            Athens in 412 B. C. and supported <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>
            with her fleet until the end of the Peloponnesian War.</note> had supported them more
          zealously than any of their other allies by means of their fleet </p></div><div n="98" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>and the Thebans<note anchored="true" resp="ed"><placeName key="perseus,Thebes">Thebes</placeName> was one of <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>'s
            strongest allies against Athens. See <bibl n="Thuc. 4.93">Thuc. 4.93</bibl>.</note> had
          contributed a great number of troops to their land forces, the Lacedaemonians no sooner
          gained the supremacy than they straightway plotted against the Thebans,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Instanced by the treacherous seizure of the Theban citadel
            (the Cadmea) by the Spartan Phoebidas. See <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 5.2.25">Xen. Hell. 5.2.25
              ff.</bibl></note> dispatched Clearchus with an army against the King,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 12.104">Isoc. 12.104</bibl>. The “ten
            thousand” mercenaries led by the Spartan Clearchus to support Cyrus against King
            Artaxerxes were not officially dispatched, although sanctioned, by <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>. For the fortunes of this army see <bibl n="Isoc. 4.145">Isoc. 4.145-149</bibl>; <bibl n="Isoc. 5.90">Isoc. 5.90 ff.</bibl>;
            and <bibl n="Xen. Anab.">Xen. Anab.</bibl></note> and in the case of the Chians drove
          into exile<note anchored="true" resp="ed">An oligarchy was established there and 600 of
            the democratic faction were driven into exile. See <bibl n="Diod. 13.65">Dio. Sic.
              13.65</bibl>.</note> the foremost of their citizens and launched their battle-ships
          from their docks and made off with their whole navy.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">This
            was done by Lysander in <date when="-0404">404 B.C.</date> See <bibl n="Diod. 13.70">Dio. Sic. 13.70</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="99" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> However, they were not satisfied with perpetrating these crimes, but about the same time
          were ravaging the Asiatic coast,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Greek settlements in
              <placeName key="tgn,7002294">Asia Minor</placeName>. See <bibl n="Isoc. 4.144">Isoc.
              4.144</bibl>.</note> committing outrages against the islands,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">For example, <placeName key="tgn,7002673">Samos</placeName> (<bibl n="Xen. Hell. 2.3.6">Xen. Hell. 2.3.6</bibl>), by expelling the democratic faction and
            setting up “decarchis” there.</note> subverting the free governments in <placeName key="tgn,1000080">Italy</placeName> and <placeName key="tgn,7003122">Sicily</placeName>,
          setting up despotisms in their stead,<note anchored="true" resp="ed"><placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> supported Dionysius the tyrant of <placeName key="perseus,Syracuse">Syracuse</placeName> in extending his power over Greek cities
            in <placeName key="tgn,7003122">Sicily</placeName> and <placeName key="tgn,1000080">Italy</placeName>. See Diodorus xiv. 10 and cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 4.126">Isoc.
              4.126</bibl>, which should be read in this connection.</note> overrunning the
            <placeName key="tgn,7017076">Peloponnesus</placeName> and filling it with seditions and
          wars. For, tell me, against which of the cities of <placeName key="tgn,1000074">Hellas</placeName> did they fail to take the field? Which of them did they fail to
          wrong? </p></div><div n="100" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Did they not rob the Eleans of part of their territory,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Diod. 14.17">Dio. Sic. 14.17</bibl>.</note> did they not lay waste the
          land of the Corinthians,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 4.5.19">Xen. Hell. 4.5.19</bibl>.</note> did they not disperse the Mantineans from their
            homes,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 4.126">Isoc. 4.126</bibl>;
              <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 5.2.1">Xen. Hell. 5.2.1</bibl>.</note> did they not reduce the
          Phliasians by siege,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 5.3.21">Xen.
              Hell. 5.3.21 ff.</bibl> and <bibl n="Isoc. 4.126">Isoc. 4.126</bibl>.</note> and did
          they not invade the country of the Argives,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 4.4.19">Xen. Hell. 4.4.19</bibl>.</note> never ceasing from their
          depredations upon the rest of the world and so bringing upon themselves the disaster at
          Leuctra? Some maintain that this disaster was the cause of the misfortunes which overtook
            <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>, but they do not speak the truth. For
          it was not because of this that they incurred the hatred of their allies; it was because
          of their insolence in the time preceding that they were defeated in this battle and fell
          into peril of losing their own city. </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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