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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg016.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="35" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> In all else I agree with them, but no man could ever persuade me that one should ever
          deem anything to be of greater consequence than justice;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">For this Isocratean idealism cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 8.31">Isoc. 8.31-35</bibl>.</note> for
          I see that our laws have been made to secure it, that men of character and reputation
          pride themselves upon practicing it, and that it constitutes the chief concern of all
          well-regulated states; </p></div><div n="36" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>further, I observe that the wars of the past have in the end been decided, not in
          accordance with the strongest forces, but in accordance with justice; and that, in
          general, the life of man is destroyed by vice and preserved by virtue. Therefore those
          should not lack courage who are about to take up arms in a just cause, but far more those
          who are insolent and do not know how to bear their good fortune with moderation.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 1.42">Isoc. 1.42</bibl> and <bibl n="Isoc. 12.31">Isoc. 12.31-32</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="37" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Then, too, there is this point to consider: At present we are all agreed as to what is
          just, while we differ as to what is expedient. But now that two good things are set before
          us, the one evident, the other doubtful, how ridiculous you would make yourselves if you
          should reject that course which is acknowledged to be good and decide to take that which
          is debatable, especially when your choice is a matter of such importance! </p></div><div n="38" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For according to my proposal you would not relinquish a single one of your possessions
          nor fasten any disgrace upon the state; nay, on the contrary, you would have good hope
          that taking up arms in a just cause you would fight better than your foes. According to
          their proposal, on the other hand, you would withdraw at once from <placeName key="perseus,Messene">Messene</placeName>, and, having first committed this wrong
          against yourselves, you would perhaps fail to secure both what is expedient and what is
          just—and everything else which you expect to gain. </p></div><div n="39" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For as yet it is by no means evident that if we do as we are bidden we shall henceforth
          enjoy lasting peace. For I think you are not unaware that all men are wont to discuss just
          terms with those who defend their rights, while in the case of those who are over-ready to
          do what they are commanded they keep adding more and more to the conditions which at first
          they intended to impose; and thus it happens that men of a warlike temper obtain a more
          satisfactory peace than those who too readily come to terms. </p></div><div n="40" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> But lest I should seem to dwell too long on this point, I shall abandon all such
          considerations and turn at once to the simplest of my proofs. If no people, after meeting
          with misfortune, ever recovered themselves or mastered their enemies, then we cannot
          reasonably hope to win victory in battle; but if on many occasions it has happened that
          the stronger power has been vanquished by the weaker, and that the besiegers have been
          destroyed by those confined within the walls, what wonder if our own circumstances
          likewise should undergo a change? </p></div><div n="41" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Now in the case of <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> I can cite no
          instance of this kind, for in times past no nation stronger than ourselves ever invaded
          our territory;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">That is, before the Theban invasion of <date when="-0369">369 B.C.</date></note> but in the case of other states there are many
          such examples which one might use, and especially is this true of the city of the
          Athenians. </p></div><div n="42" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For we shall find that as a result of dictating to others they lost repute with the
          Hellenes, while by defending themselves against insolent invaders they won fame among all
          mankind. Now if I were to recount the wars of old which they fought against the Amazons or
          the Thracians or the Peloponnesians<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 4.56">Isoc. 4.56</bibl> and 70.</note> who under the leadership of Eurystheus
          invaded <placeName key="tgn,7002681">Attica</placeName>, no doubt I should be thought to
          speak on matters ancient and remote from the present situation; but in their war against
          the Persians,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 4.71">Isoc.
            4.71-98</bibl>.</note> who does not know from what hardships they arose to great
          good-fortune? </p></div><div n="43" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For they alone of those who dwelt outside of the <placeName key="tgn,7017076">Peloponnesus</placeName>, although they saw that the strength of the barbarians was
          irresistible, did not think it honorable to consider the terms imposed upon them,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">These terms were to give earth and water, in token of
            submission, to the heralds of the Great King. <bibl n="Hdt. 7.133">Hdt.
            7.133</bibl>.</note> but straightway chose to see their city ravaged rather than
          enslaved. Leaving their own country,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 4.96">Isoc. 4.96</bibl>.</note> and adopting Freedom as their fatherland,
          they shared the dangers of war with us, and wrought such a change in their fortunes that,
          after being deprived of their own possessions for but a few days, they became for many
          years masters of the rest of the world.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 4.72">Isoc. 4.72</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="44" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p><placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>, however, is not the only instance by
          which one might show how great are the advantages of daring to resist one's enemies. There
          is also the case of the tyrant Dionysius, who, when he was besieged by the Carthaginians,
          seeing not a glimmer of hope for deliverance, but being hard pressed both by the war and
          by the disaffection of his citizens, was, for his part, on the point of sailing away, when
          one of his companions made bold to declare that “royalty is a glorious shroud.”<note anchored="true" resp="ed">That is, it is a glorious thing to die a king. For the event,
              <date when="-0396">396 B.C.</date>, See <bibl n="Diod. 14.58">Dio. Sic. 14.58</bibl>,
            and for the anecdote, <bibl n="Diod. 14.8.5">Dio. Sic. 14.8.5</bibl> and <bibl n="Ael. VH 4.8">Ael. Var. Hist. 4.8</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="45" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Ashamed of what he had planned to do, and taking up the war afresh, he destroyed
          countless hosts of the Carthaginians,<note anchored="true" resp="ed"><bibl n="Diod. 14.72.6">Dio. Sic. 14.72.6</bibl>, says the shore was strewn with
            corpses.</note> strengthened his authority over his subjects, acquired far greater
          dominion than he had possessed before, ruled with absolute power until his death,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Dionysius died in the spring of <date when="-0367">367
              B.C.</date></note> and left his son in possession of the same honors and powers as he
          himself had enjoyed. </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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