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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg016.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="61" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>and that we still remain faithful to the customs and ways of life which we established
          here in the very beginning, while the rest of the Hellenes are not able to stand even
          their good fortune, but have become completely demoralized, some of them seizing the
          cities of their allies,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">That is, those of the Theban
            league. Isocrates is here describing <placeName key="perseus,Thebes">Thebes</placeName>
            and especially her allies in the <placeName key="tgn,7017076">Peloponnesus</placeName>.</note> others opposing them in this; some disputing with
          their neighbors about territory, others, again, indulging their envy of one another<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See note a, p. 352. <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 7.1.32">Xen. Hell.
              7.1.32</bibl>, says that the Thebans and Eleans were no less pleased at the defeat of
            their allies, the Arcadians, in the “tearless” battle of <date when="-0367">367
              B.C.</date> than were the Lacedaemonians.</note> rather than making war against us.
          Therefore I wonder at those who look for a stronger ally than is found in the blundering
          of our enemies. </p></div><div n="62" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> But if I must also speak of aid from the outside, I think that many will be disposed to
          assist us.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">For <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> see <bibl n="Isoc. 8.105">Isoc. 8.105</bibl> and <bibl n="Isoc. 5.44">Isoc. 5.44</bibl>. Among the states in <placeName key="tgn,7017076">Peloponnesus</placeName>, Phlius, <placeName key="perseus,Heraea">Heraea</placeName>,
            and <placeName key="tgn,7011034">Orchomenus</placeName> in <placeName key="tgn,7002735">Arcadia</placeName> were still true to <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>. (<bibl n="Xen. Hell. 7.2.1">Xen. Hell. 7.2.1</bibl>, <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 6.5.22">Xen. Hell. 6.5.22</bibl>, and <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 6.5.11">Xen.
              Hell. 6.5.11</bibl>.) The reference is to Dionysius the younger, who began to reign
              <date from="-0367" to="-0366">367-366 B.C.</date> His father had given aid to
              <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> on various occasions. See
            Underhill's note on <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 5.1.28">Xen. Hell. 5.1.28</bibl> (<placeName key="tgn,7011931">Oxford</placeName> edition). Nectanebos (<date from="-0378" to="-0364">378-364 B.C.</date>) was king of <placeName key="tgn,7016833">Egypt</placeName> at this time. <placeName key="tgn,7016833">Egypt</placeName>
            generally supported those who fought against the Persians, and now the Theban enemies of
              <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> were in league with <placeName key="tgn,7000231">Persia</placeName>. As to the dynasts of Asia see <bibl n="Isoc. 4.162">Isoc. 4.162</bibl> and <bibl n="Isoc. 5.103">Isoc. 5.103</bibl>.
            Probably such powerful rulers as Mausolus of Caria, who revolted from <placeName key="tgn,7000231">Persia</placeName> in <date when="-0362">362 B.C.</date>, are here
            meant, as well as the rulers of <placeName key="tgn,1000112">Cyprus</placeName>. See
              <bibl n="Isoc. 5.102">Isoc. 5.102</bibl> and <bibl n="Isoc. 4.134">Isoc.
            4.134</bibl>.</note> For I know, in the first place, that the Athenians, although they
          may not hold with us in everything, yet if our existence were at stake would go to any
          length to save us; in the second place, that some of the other states would consult our
          interest as if it were their very own; </p></div><div n="63" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>again, that the tyrant Dionysius, and the king of <placeName key="tgn,7016833">Egypt</placeName>, and the various dynasts throughout Asia, each so far as he has the
          power, would willingly lend us aid; and, furthermore, that the Hellenes who rank first in
          wealth and stand foremost in reputation and who desire the best of governments,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Those who sympathize with an oligarchy such as the Spartan
            government. <foreign xml:lang="greek">oi( be/ltistoi</foreign> is almost technical for
            “the aristocratic party.” as <foreign xml:lang="greek">ta\ be/ltista</foreign> for an
            aristocratic government. Cf. <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 5.2.6">Xen. Hell. 5.2.6</bibl>. Such
            people might be expected to form a conspiracy to set up an oligarchy favorable to
              <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>.</note> even though they have not
          yet allied themselves with us, are with us at least to the extent of wishing us well, and
          that upon them we have good reason to rest great hopes for the future. </p></div><div n="64" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Also I think that not only the people of the <placeName key="tgn,7017076">Peloponnesus</placeName> in general but even the adherents of democracy,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Those in <placeName key="tgn,7017076">Peloponnesus</placeName>
            who are not definitely committed to an oligarchic government.</note> whom we consider to
          be especially unfriendly to us, are already yearning for our protection. For by revolting
          from us they have gained nothing of what they anticipated; on the contrary, they have got
          just the opposite of freedom; for having slain the best of their citizens, they are now in
          the power of the worst; instead of securing self-government, they have been plunged into
          misgovernment of many terrible kinds; </p></div><div n="65" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>accustomed as they have been in the past to march with us against others, they now behold
          the rest taking the field against themselves; and the war of factions, of whose existence
          in other territories they used to know only by report, they now see waged almost every day
          in their own states. They have been so levelled by their misfortunes that no man can
          discern who among them are the most wretched; </p></div><div n="66" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>for not one of their states is unscathed, not one but has neighbors ready to do it
          injury; in consequence, their fields have been laid waste, their cities sacked, their
          people driven from their homes, their constitutions overturned, and the laws abolished
          under which they were once the most fortunate among the Hellenes.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The Acheans (<bibl n="Plb. 2.38">Polyb. 2.38.6</bibl>) and the Mantineans
              (<bibl n="Ael. VH 2.22">Ael. Var. Hist. 2.22</bibl>) were famed for their excellent
            laws.</note>
        </p></div><div n="67" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>They feel such distrust and such hatred of one another that they fear their
          fellow-citizens more than the enemy; instead of preserving the spirit of accord and mutual
          helpfulness which they enjoyed under our rule, they have become so unsocial that those who
          own property had rather throw their possessions into the sea than lend aid to the needy,
          while those who are in poorer circumstances would less gladly find a treasure than seize
          the possessions of the rich; </p></div><div n="68" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>having ceased sacrificing victims at the altars they slaughter one another<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Possibly Isocrates may have in mind the massacre at <placeName key="perseus,Corinth">Corinth</placeName> in <date when="-0392">392 B.C.</date> (<bibl n="Xen. Hell. 4.4.3">Xen. Hell. 4.4.3</bibl>), the murder of certain Achaean
            suppliants, who took refuge in the temple of Heliconian Poseidon (Pausanias vii. 25), or
            the slaughter of 1200 prominent citizens in <placeName key="perseus,Argos">Argos</placeName> in <date when="-0371">371 B.C.</date> (Diodorus xv. 58). Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 5.52">Isoc. 5.52</bibl>.</note> there instead; and more people are in exile
          now from a single city than before from the whole of the <placeName key="tgn,7017076">Peloponnesus</placeName>. But although the miseries which I have recounted are so many,
          those which remain unmentioned far outnumber them; for all the distress and all the horror
          in the world have come together in this one region. </p></div><div n="69" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>With these miseries some states are already replete; others too will shortly have their
          fill, and then they will seek to find some relief for the troubles which now beset them.
          For do not imagine that they will continue to put up with these conditions; for how could
          men who grew weary even of prosperity endure for a long time the pressure of adversity?
          And so not only if we fight and conquer, but even if we keep quiet and bide our time, you
          will see them veer round and come to regard alliance with us as their only safety. Such,
          then, are the hopes which I entertain. </p></div><div n="70" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> However, so far am I from complying with the enemy's demands that, if none of these
          hopes should be realized and we should fail to obtain help from any quarter, but on the
          contrary some of the Hellenes should wrong us and the rest should look on with
          indifference—even so I should not alter my opinion; but I would undergo all the hazards
          which spring from war before I would agree to these terms. For I should be equally
          chagrined in either case—if we charged our forefathers with having deprived the Messenians
          of their land unjustly, or if, although insisting that they acquired it rightly and
          honorably, we made any concession regarding this territory contrary to our just rights.
        </p></div><div n="71" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Nay, we must follow neither course, but must consider how we may carry on the war in a
          manner worthy of Spartans, and not prove those who are wont to eulogize our state to be
          liars, but so acquit ourselves that they shall seem to have told less than the truth about
          us. </p></div><div n="72" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Now I certainly believe that nothing worse will befall us in the future than what we
          endure at present, but that, on the contrary, our enemies will plan and act in such a way
          that they themselves will right our fortunes; but if we should after all be disappointed
          in our hopes, and should find ourselves hemmed in on every side and be no longer able to
          hold our city, then, hard as may be the step which I am about to propose, yet I shall not
          hesitate to proclaim it boldly; for that which I shall propose to you is a nobler course
          to be heralded abroad among the Hellenes, and more in keeping with our own pride, than
          that which is urged by some among you. </p></div><div n="73" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> For I declare that we must send our parents and our wives and children and the mass of
          the people away from <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>, some to
            <placeName key="tgn,7003122">Sicily</placeName>, some to <placeName key="tgn,7000639">Cyrene</placeName>, others to the mainland of Asia,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Greek emigration from the home country was commonly towards the far west (<placeName key="tgn,7003122">Sicily</placeName>), the east (coast of <placeName key="tgn,7002294">Asia Minor</placeName>), or the south (<placeName key="tgn,7000639">Cyrene</placeName>). Moreover, Dionysius the tyrant of <placeName key="perseus,Syracuse">Syracuse</placeName> and the “dynasts” in <placeName key="tgn,1000004">Asia</placeName> were friendly to the Spartans (see § 63), and
              <placeName key="tgn,7000639">Cyrene</placeName> was a Spartan settlement (see <bibl n="Isoc. 5.5">Isoc. 5.5</bibl>).</note> where the inhabitants will all gladly welcome
          them with gifts of ample lands and of the other means of livelihood as well, partly in
          gratitude for favors which they have received and partly in expectation of the return of
          favors which they first bestow. </p></div><div n="74" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Those of us, on the other hand, who are willing and able to fight must remain behind,
          abandon the city and all our possessions except what we can carry with us, and having
          seized some stronghold which will be the most secure and the most advantageous for
          carrying on the war, harry and plunder our enemies both by land and by sea until they
          cease from laying claim to what is ours. </p></div><div n="75" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>If we have the courage for such a course and never falter in it, you will see those who
          now issue commands imploring and beseeching us to take back <placeName key="perseus,Messene">Messene</placeName> and make peace. For what state in the
            <placeName key="tgn,7017076">Peloponnesus</placeName> could withstand a war such as
          would in all likelihood be waged if we so willed? What people would not be stricken with
          dismay and terror at the assembling of an army which had carried out such measures, which
          had been roused to just wrath against those who had driven it to these extremes, and which
          had been rendered desperate and reckless of life— </p></div><div n="76" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>an army which, in its freedom from ordinary cares and in having no other duty but that of
          war, would resemble a mercenary force, but in point of native valor and of disciplined
          habits would be like no army that could be levied in all the world—an army, moreover,
          which would have no fixed government, but would be able to bivouac in the open fields and
          to range the country at will, readily making itself neighbor to any people at its
          pleasure, and regarding every place which offered advantages for waging war as its
          fatherland? </p></div><div n="77" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For my part, I believe that if this proposal were merely put in words and scattered
          broadcast among the Hellenes, our enemies would be thrown into utter confusion; and still
          more would this be so if we were put to the necessity of carrying it into effect. For what
          must we suppose their feelings will be when they themselves suffer injury, but are
          powerless to inflict injury upon us; </p></div><div n="78" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>when they see their own cities reduced to a state of siege, while we shall have taken
          such measures that our own city cannot henceforth experience a like calamity; and when,
          furthermore, they perceive that it is easy for us to procure food both from our existing
          stores and from the spoils of war, but difficult for them, inasmuch as it is one thing to
          provide for an army such as ours and another to feed the crowds in cities? </p></div><div n="79" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But bitterest of all will it be for them when they learn that the members of our
          households have all along been living in comfort and plenty, whereas they will see their
          own people destitute every day of the necessities of life, and will not be able even to
          alleviate their distress, but if they till the soil, they will lose both crop and seed,
          and if they allow it to lie unworked, they will be unable to hold out any time at all.
        </p></div><div n="80" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> But perhaps, you will object, they will join forces and with their united armies will
          follow us up and prevent us from doing them harm. Yet what better thing could we wish than
          to find close at hand, drawn up in line of battle and encamped against us face to face on
          the same difficult ground, an undisciplined and motley rabble, serving under many leaders?
          For there would be need of no great effort on our part; no, we should quickly force them
          to give battle, choosing the moment propitious for ourselves and not for them. </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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