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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" xml:lang="eng" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0032.tlg003.perseus-eng2"><div type="textpart" subtype="chapter" n="2"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="6"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">Moreover, I observe that already the state is exacting
                                                heavy contributions from you: you must needs keep
                                                horses, pay for choruses and gymnastic competitions,
                                                and accept presidencies;<note resp="Loeb" anchored="true">It is unlikely that <foreign xml:lang="grc">προστατείας</foreign> is used
                                                  here for <foreign xml:lang="grc">προστασίας,</foreign> the charge of resident
                                                  aliens, since there is no proof that this duty
                                                  involved expense to the patron.</note> and if war
                                                breaks out, I know they will require you to maintain
                                                a ship and pay taxes that will nearly crush you.
                                                Whenever you seem to fall short of what is expected
                                                of you, the Athenians will certainly punish you as
                                                though they had caught you robbing them.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="7"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">Besides all this, I notice that you imagine yourself to
                                                be a rich man; you are indifferent to money, and yet
                                                go courting minions, as though the cost were nothing
                                                to you. And that is why I pity you, and fear that
                                                you may come to grief and find yourself reduced to
                                                penury.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="8"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">Now, if I ran short of money, no doubt you know as well
                                                as I do that I should not lack helpers who would
                                                need to contribute very little to fill my cup to
                                                overflowing. But your friends, though far better
                                                supplied with means to support their establishment
                                                than you, yet look to receive help from you.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="9"><p><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said direct="true">I cannot dispute this,
                                                  <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>,</said>
                                                said Critobulus, <said direct="true">but it is time for you to take me
                                                in hand, and see that I don’t become a real object
                                                of pity.</said>
                                        <milestone ed="P" unit="para"/>At this
                                                  <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>
                                                exclaimed, <said direct="true">What, don’t you think it strange,
                                                Critobulus, that a little while ago, when I said I
                                                was rich, you laughed at me, as though I did not
                                                even know the meaning of riches, and would not cease
                                                until you had proved me wrong and made me own that
                                                my possessions were less than one-hundredth part of
                                                yours, and yet now you bid me take you in hand and
                                                see that you don’t become in literal truth a poor
                                                man?</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="10"><p><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said direct="true">Well,
                                                  <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>,
                                                I see that you understand one process by which
                                                wealth is created—how to create a balance. So a man
                                                who saves on a small income can, I suppose, very
                                                easily show a large surplus with a large one.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="11"><p><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said direct="true">Then don’t you remember
                                                saying just now in our conversation, when you
                                                wouldn’t give me leave to utter a syllable, that if
                                                a man doesn’t know how to manage horses, his horses
                                                are not wealth to him, nor his land, sheep, money or
                                                anything else, if he doesn’t know how to manage
                                                them? Now these are the sources from which income is
                                                derived: and how do you suppose that I can possibly
                                                know how to manage any of these things, seeing that
                                                I never yet possessed any one of them?</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="12"><p><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said direct="true">Still we held that, even
                                                if a man happens to have no wealth, there is such a
                                                thing as a science of household management. Then
                                                what reason is there why you should not know
                                                it?</said><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said direct="true">Exactly the same reason,
                                                of course, that a man would have for not knowing how
                                                to play on the flute if he had never possessed one
                                                himself and had never borrowed one to learn on.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="13"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">That is just my case with regard to estate management;
                                                for never having possessed wealth myself, I have not
                                                had an opportunity of learning on an instrument of
                                                my own, and nobody has ever let me handle his, until
                                                you made your offer. Beginners, I fancy, are apt to
                                                spoil the lyres they learn on; and if I attempted to
                                                learn to manage estates by practising on yours,
                                                possibly I might spoil it entirely for you.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="14"><p><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said direct="true">Ah,
                                                  <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>!</said>
                                                rejoined Critobulus, <said direct="true">I see you are eager to avoid
                                                giving me any help towards lightening the weight of
                                                my troublesome duties.</said>
                                        <milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said direct="true">Not at all, not at all,</said>
                                                said
                                                  <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>,
                                                <said direct="true">I am all eagerness to tell you all I know.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="15"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">Suppose that you had come to me for fire, and I, having
                                                none by me, had taken you to some place where you
                                                could get it; you would not, I think, have found
                                                fault with me: or, if you had asked for water, and
                                                I, having none myself, had brought you to some other
                                                place for it, I feel sure that you would not have
                                                found fault with me for that either: or, suppose you
                                                wanted to learn music with me and I directed you to
                                                persons far more skilled in music than I am, who
                                                would be grateful to you for taking lessons with
                                                them, what fault could you find with me for doing
                                                so?</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="16"><p><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said direct="true">None, if I were fair,
                                                  <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>.</said><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said direct="true">Well then, Critobulus, I
                                                will direct you to others far more skilled than I in
                                                the things you now seek to learn from me. I confess
                                                that I have made a point of finding out who are the
                                                greatest masters of various sciences to be found in
                                                  <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="17"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">For observing once that the same pursuits lead in one
                                                case to great poverty and in another to great
                                                riches, I was filled with amazement, and thought it
                                                worth while to consider what this could mean. And on
                                                consideration I found that these things happen quite
                                                naturally.</said></p></div><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="18"><p><said direct="true" rend="merge">For I saw that those who follow these pursuits carelessly
                                                suffer loss, and I discovered that those who devote
                                                themselves earnestly to them accomplish them more
                                                quickly, more easily and with more profit. I think
                                                that if you would elect to learn from these, you too
                                                with God’s favour would turn out a clever man of
                                                business.</said></p></div></div><div type="textpart" subtype="chapter" n="3"><div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="1"><p><milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said direct="true"><persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>,</said>
                                                exclaimed Critobulus on hearing this, <said direct="true">I don’t
                                                intend to let you go now, until you have proved to
                                                my satisfaction what you have promised in the
                                                presence of our friends here to prove.</said>
                                        <milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said direct="true">Well then,</said> said
                                                  <persName><surname>Socrates</surname></persName>,
                                                <said direct="true">what if I prove to your satisfaction, Critobulus,
                                                to begin with, that some men spend large sums in
                                                building houses that are useless, while others build
                                                houses perfect in all respects for much less? Will
                                                you think that I am putting before you one of the
                                                operations that constitute estate management?</said>
                                        <milestone ed="P" unit="para"/><said direct="true">Yes, certainly.</said></p></div></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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