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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:pdlpsci:bodin.livrep.perseus-eng1" xml:lang="eng"><div n="5" type="textpart" subtype="book"><div n="3" type="textpart" subtype="chapter"><pb n="580" facs="292"/><head><hi rend="italic">CHAP. III.</hi><milestone n="F" unit="unspec"/> Whether the goods of men condemned should be
                     applied unto the common treasure, or to the Church; or els left unto the
                     heires.</head><p><seg rend="decorInit">T</seg>His Chapter depends upon the former, for one of
                     the causes which brings the subiects to extreame pouertie, is to take the goods
                     of the condemned from their lawfull heires, and especially from children, if
                     they have no other support nor hope, but in the succession of their parents:
                     and the more children they haue, the greater their pouertie shall be, to whome
                     the succession of their fathers belongs <milestone n="G" unit="unspec"/> by the
                     law of nature, and who by the law of God should not suffer for their fathers
                     offences. By which confiscations not onely the lawes of God and nature seeme to
                     be violated, but the children (who haply have benebred up in delights) are
                        oftentimes<note place="marg" anchored="true">It seemes against the law of nature to take the
                        succession of the father condemned from the child.</note> reduced to such
                     pouertie and miserie, as they are thrust into despaire, and attempt any
                     villanie, either to be revenged, or to flie from want which doth oppresse them.
                     For we may not hope, that they which have bene bred up as maisters, will serue
                     as slaues: and if they have not in former times learned any thing, they will
                     not now begin, when as they have no meanes. Besides the shame they have either
                     to beg, or to suffer the reproach of infamie, doth force them to banish
                     themselves, and to ioyne with theeves &amp; robbers: so as for one sometimes
                     there goe forth two or three worse than hee that had <milestone n="H" unit="unspec"/> lost both life and goods: so as the punishment which serueth
                     not onely for a revenge of the offence, but also to diminish the number of the
                     wicked, and for the saftie of the good, produceth quite contrarie effects.
                     These reasons briefly run ouer, and amplified by some examples, seeme
                     necessarie to shew that the law of <hi rend="italic">Iustinian</hi> the
                     emperour, receiued and practised in many countries, is most iust and
                     profitable: whereby it was enacted, That the goods of them that were condemned
                     should be left unto their heirs,<note place="marg" anchored="true">Iustinian left the goods of
                        the condemned unto the heire.</note> vnlesse it were in case of high
                     treason. Contrariwise some may say, that this is a new law, and contrarie to
                     all the auntient lawes and ordinances of the wisest princes &amp; lawgiuers,
                     who would have the goods of any one condemned, adiudged unto the publike,
                     without some especiall cause to moue them to the contrarie: bee it for
                     reparation <milestone n="I" unit="unspec"/> of faults, which oft times is
                     pecuniarie, and is to be paid to the Commonweale interessed, for els there
                     should bee no meanes to punish by fines, the which is an ordinarie kind of
                     punishment: be it for the qualitie of the crimes, and of those that have robbed
                     the Commonweale, which must be satisfied out of his goods that hath offended:
                     or to terrifie the wicked, which commit all the villanies in the world to
                     enrich their children,<note place="marg" anchored="true">Wicked men wil attempt any thing to
                        enrich their children.</note> and many times they care not to loose their
                     lives, yea to damne themselves, so as their children may be heires of their
                     robberies and thefts. It is needlesse to proue this by examples, the which are
                     infinit: I will onely produce one of <hi rend="italic">Cassius Licinius,</hi>
                     who being accused and condemned of many thefts and extortions, and seeing <hi rend="italic">Cicero</hi> (who was then president) putting on his purple
                     robe, to pronounce the sentence of confiscation <milestone n="K" unit="unspec"/> and banishment, he sent one to tell <hi rend="italic">Cicero</hi> that he
                     was dead during the processe, &amp; before the condemnation, choaking himselfe
                     in view of the judges with a table napkin, to the end he might saue his goods
                     for his children: Then <hi rend="italic">Cicero</hi> (saith <hi rend="italic">Valerius</hi>) would not pronounce the sentence. It was in the power of the
                     accused to saue his life in abandoning of his goods, according unto the
                     conclusions of his accusers: as <hi rend="italic">Verres</hi> and many others
                     in like case did▪ for by the law Sempronia they might not condemne a bourgesse
                     of Rome to death, nor whip them by the law Portia. And although that <hi rend="italic">Plutarch,</hi> and <hi rend="italic">Cicero</hi> himselfe
                     writes to his friend <hi rend="italic">Atticus,</hi> That hee had condemned <hi rend="italic">Licinius,</hi>

                     <pb n="581" facs="292"/> it is to be vnderstood by the aduice and opinion of
                     all the judges, not that he had <milestone n="A" unit="unspec"/> pronounced the
                     sentence, for those lawes were not yet made against them which killed
                     themselves before sentence. And a hundred and fiftie yeares after, if any one
                     being accused and guiltie of any crime, had killed himselfe through dispaire or
                     griefe, he was buried and his testament was of force, in the time of cruell <hi rend="italic">Tiberius, Pretium festinand<gap reason="illegible" extent="1+_letters" instant="false"/>,</hi>

                     <note place="marg" anchored="true">A law in favour of murtherers.</note> (saith <hi rend="italic">Tacitus</hi>) that is to say, Murtherers in their persons had
                     that aduantage over others. But whether that he were condemned after his death,
                     or that he died of griefe, it appeares plainely that many make no difficultie
                     to damne themselves to enrich their children. And it may be there is nothing
                     that doth more restraine the wicked from offending, than the feare of
                     confiscation, whereby their children should be left beggers.<note place="marg" anchored="true">The law of confiscation <gap reason="illegible" extent="1_word" instant="false"/> the wicked.</note> Therefore
                     the law saith, That the Commonweale hath a great interest, that the children
                        <milestone n="B" unit="unspec"/> of them that are condemned, should be poore
                     and needie. Neither can wee say, that the law of God or nature is therein
                     broken, nor is the sonne punished for the father, for that the fathers goods
                     are not the childrens: and there is no succession of him whose goods are iustly
                     taken away before he is dead.</p><p>And if any one feares that want wil driue the children to dispaire, and to all
                     kinds of wickednesse: much more reason hath he to feare, that wicked children
                     will abuse their fathers goods, to the ruine of good men and of the
                     Commonweale. And therefore the law excludes the sonnes of him that is condemned
                     for high treason, from all successions direct and collaterall, and leaues vnto
                     the daughters (who have lesse power to revenge) a fourth part of their mothers
                     goods. But there is a greater inconuenience if <milestone n="C" unit="unspec"/>

                     <note place="marg" anchored="true">Rewards are necessary for accusers.</note> the goods of the
                     condemned be left unto their heirs, then shall the accusers and informers haue
                     no rewards, and wickednesse shall remaine vnpunished.</p><p>These be the inconueniences on either part, but to resolue of that which is
                     most fit, is most necessarie that the true debts being either publike or
                     priuat, and the charges of informations, should be deducted out of the goods of
                     the condemned, if they have wherewithall: else there should be no punishment of
                     the wicked. Yet this clause ought not to be annexed unto the sentence, and hath
                     bene reproued by many decrees of the court of parliament, to the end that the
                     judges may know, that they ought to do iustice although the condemned hath not
                     any thing. In like sort it is necessarie that fines &amp; amercements should be
                        le<gap reason="illegible" extent="1+_letters" instant="false"/>ied out of their goods that are condemned in any
                     summe <milestone n="D" unit="unspec"/> of money, prouided alwayes, that it be
                     taken out of their mouable goods▪ or out of that<note place="marg" anchored="true">What order
                        is to be obserued in their goods that are condemned.</note> which they haue
                     purchased, and not out of those lands which come by succession, the which must
                     be left unto the heire. And in capitall crimes, that the mouables &amp; lands
                     purchased, should be forfeited and sold to them that would giue most, for the
                     charges of the processe, and the reward of informers; and the rest to be
                     imployed to publike &amp; charitable vses, the succession remaining to the
                     lawful heires: in so doing you shal preuent the extreame pouertie of the
                     children, the couetousnesse of slaunderers, the tyranny of bad princes, the
                     euasion of the wicked, and the impunitie of offences. For to forfeit those
                     lands which are tyed unto the house, were no reason, seeing it is not lawfull
                        to<note place="marg" anchored="true">Lands which come by succession cannot be
                        forfeited.</note> alienat them by testament, nor in many places to dispose
                     therof in their life time: by the <milestone n="E" unit="unspec"/> which should
                     follow a great inequalitie of goods. And for this reason the goods and lands
                     purchased must be sold, and not applied unto the church or publike treasure,
                     least that in the end all priuat mens estates should come to the publike, or to
                     the church: for that it is not lawfull to alienat those goods which are vnited
                     to the reuenewes of the Commonweale, or to the church. Moreover informers and
                     accusers must bee rewarded, not with the possessions of the condemned (which
                     might animat them to accuse good men wrongfully) but with some peece of mony:
                     For the desire to have the house or inheritance of another man, the which they
                     could not obtaine for money, would <pb n="582" facs="293"/> be a great occasion
                     of false accusers to ruine the innocent. Yet must informers have <milestone n="F" unit="unspec"/> some reward, else the wicked shall continue their
                     villanies with all impunitie. And as a good huntsman will neuer faile to reward
                     his dogges with the intrails of the beast, to make them the more lively: so a
                     wise law-giuer must reward them which seize uppon the wolues and lions of the
                     Commonweales. And for that there is nothing (after the honour due unto God) of
                     greater consequence than the punishment of offences, wee must seeke all meanes
                     possible to attaine unto it. But the difficultie is not small, to take the
                     confiscations from the publike, to imploy them as I have said, and especially
                     in a Moarchy. Yet there are many reasons, the which a wise and vertuous prince
                     will more esteeme for his reputation, than all the goods in the world gotten by
                        confiscations.<note place="marg" anchored="true">The inconueniences which grow in adiudging
                        of confiscations unto the publike.</note> For if the publike reuenewes be
                     great, or the charges and impositions laid uppon <milestone n="G" unit="unspec"/> the subiect sufficient, the confiscations ought not to be adiudged unto the
                     treasure, if the Commonweale be poore, much lesse may you inrich it with
                     confiscations. Inso doing you shall open a gate for false accusers to make
                     marchandise of the blood of the poore subiects, and for princes to become
                     tyrants. So we see that the height of all tyranny hath bene in proscriptions
                     and coufiscation of the subiects goods. By this means <hi rend="italic">Tiberius</hi> the emperour made the way to a most cruell butcherie, leauing
                     to the value of<note place="marg" anchored="true">Confiscations the cau<gap reason="illegible" extent="1+_letters" instant="false"/>e of tyranny.</note> sixtie seuen millions of crownes gotten the most part
                     by confiscations. And after him his nephewes <hi rend="italic">Caligula</hi>
                     and <hi rend="italic">Nero,</hi> polluted their hands with the blood of the
                     best and most vertuous men in all the empire, and all for their goods. It is
                     well knowne that <hi rend="italic">Nero</hi> had no colour to put to death his
                     maister <hi rend="italic">Seneca,</hi> but for his wealth. Neither <milestone n="H" unit="unspec"/> shall there be at any time false accusers wanting,
                     knowing they shall neuer bee called in question for their slaunders, being
                     supported by the prince, who reaps part of the profit. <hi rend="italic">Plinie</hi> the younger speaking of those times, Wee have (saith hee) seene
                     the iudgements of informers, like unto theeves and robbers: for there was no
                     testament, nor any mans estate assured. And therefore by the lawes, the kings
                     procurator is enioyned to name the informer, least the accusation in the end
                     should proue slaunderous: the which is necessarily obserued in Spaine, before
                     that the kings procurator is admitted to accuse any man, by an edict of <hi rend="italic">Ferdinand,</hi> made in the yere 1492, in these tearmes, <hi rend="italic">Que ningun fiscal pueda accusar a conse<gap reason="illegible" extent="1+_letters" instant="false"/>o persone particular sin dar primerimente
                        delator,</hi> That no fiscall or publike officer may accuse any priuat
                     person before the Councell, but hee shall <milestone n="I" unit="unspec"/>
                     first giue in the accusers name. If confiscations have beene alwayes odious in
                     euerie Commonweale, much more daungerous be they in a Monarchy than in a
                     Popular or Aristocraticall estate, where false accusers are not so easily
                     receiued.</p><p>If any one will obiect, That we need not to feare these inconueniences in a
                     Royall estate, hauing to doe with good princes: I annswere, that this right of
                     confiscation is<note place="marg" anchored="true">Confiscations most daungerous in a
                        Monarchy.</note> one of the greatest means that euer was inuented, to make a
                     good prince a tyrant, especially if the prince be poore. For he that hath no
                     pretext to put his subiect to death; if<note place="marg" anchored="true">Tyrants are enriched
                        by false accusations, by meanes of confiscations.</note> he hopes to haue
                     his goods thereby, he will neuer want crime, accusers, nor flatterets. And
                     oftentimes the wiues of princes kindle this fire, &amp; inflame their husbands
                     to al crueltie, to enioy the goods of them that are condemned. <hi rend="italic">Achab</hi> king of Samaria could <milestone n="K" unit="unspec"/> not get <hi rend="italic">Naboths</hi> vinyard, neither for
                     price nor praier, but queene <hi rend="italic">Iesabel</hi> subborned two false
                     witnesses, to condemne the innocent as guiltie of treason both against God and
                     man. And <hi rend="italic">Faustine</hi> did still importune the emperour <hi rend="italic">Marcus Aurelius</hi> her husband, to put to death the poore
                     innocent children of <hi rend="italic">Auidius Cassius,</hi> beeing condemned
                     for treason, whose goods the emperour left unto his children; as the kings of
                     Persia were woont to doe, euen in cases of high treason, and hath bene often
                     practised in this realm. And by the lawes of Polonia, confiscation hath no
                     place but in the highest degree of treason: and oftentimes it is giuen unto the
                     kinsfolkes. But it is a hard matter to recover <pb n="583" facs="293"/> the
                     goods which are once forfeited, be it by right or wrong; for they hold it for a
                        rule,<milestone n="A" unit="unspec"/> That amercements once adiudged to the
                     crowne and receiued, are neuer restored, although the iudgement were false. The
                     which is the more to bee feared, for that the goods of them that are condemned
                     for treason, are forfeited to the prince, and not to the lords of the soyle,
                     who cannot pretend any thing if another mans subiect bee condemned for treason,
                     as they may doe in all other crimes. And although we may number as many good
                     and vertuous kings in this realme, as euer were in any Monarchie upon this
                     earth, yet wee shall see that the reuenewes have beene more augmented by
                     confiscations and forced gifts, than by any thing else. Was there euer prince
                     in the world in vertue, pietie, and integritie, like unto our king Saint <hi rend="italic">Lewes?</hi> and yet by the meanes aforesaid, hauing caused <hi rend="italic">Peter</hi> of Dreux to be condemned, he did confiscat, and
                        <milestone n="B" unit="unspec"/> then vnite unto his crowne the earldome of
                     Dreux: as he did also unto <hi rend="italic">Thibaut</hi> king of Nauarre and
                     earle of Champagne, who was in the like daunger, if he had not resigned Bray,
                     Fortione, and Monstrueil: and <hi rend="italic">Raymond</hi> earle of Tholouse,
                     the countrey of Languedoc.<note place="marg" anchored="true">1234.</note> The countries of
                     Guienne, Aniou, Maine, Touraine, and Auuergne, are come unto the crowne by
                     confiscations in the time of <hi rend="italic">Philip Augustus.</hi> The
                     dutchie of Alencon,<note place="marg" anchored="true">1202.</note> and the earledome of Perch,
                     are also come by confiscations. In like case <note n="a" place="marg" anchored="true">1458.</note> Perigort, <note n="b" place="marg" anchored="true">1369.</note> Ponthieu,
                        <note n="c" place="marg" anchored="true">1370.</note> la Marche, <note n="d" place="marg" anchored="true">1302.</note> Angoulesme, <note n="e" place="marg" anchored="true">1302.</note> l'Isle in
                     Iourdaine, the marquisat of Salusses, and <note n="f" place="marg" anchored="true">1535.</note>
                     all the goods of <hi rend="italic">Charles</hi> of Bourbon, with many other
                     priuat Seigneuries, have bene forfeited for high treason, according to the
                     custome of other Commonweales, and the antient laws. But the custome of
                     Scotland in cases of treasons is more cruell,<milestone n="C" unit="unspec"/>
                     whereas all the goods of him that is condemned accrue unto the exchequer,
                     without any regard of wife, children, nor creditors.</p><p>If any man will say, That the king freeing himself of those lands which hold
                     not immediatly of him, according to the edict of <hi rend="italic">Philip</hi>
                     the Faire, and giuing the most part of them which hold directly of him, vnto
                     such as shall deserue well, the which he may do before they be incorporat vnto
                     the crowne: hee shall not appropriat unto the publike all the goods of priuat
                     men, as else he might do in time. And to preuent this inconuenience, the king
                     cannot recover those lands which hold directly of him, offring the price to
                     them that bought them: for so he might by purchase get all his subiects lands.
                     I doe therefore thinke this more convenient, than to adiudge the confiscations
                     unto <milestone n="D" unit="unspec"/> the people; as they did in Rome by the
                     law Cornelia, which <hi rend="italic">Sylla</hi> the Dictator did publish,
                     after that he had enriched his friends and partisans with the spoyles of his
                     enemies. But there is as small reason to giue them to the flatterers of
                     princes, and to the horse leaches of the court, as it is vsuall in all gouerned
                     Monarchies, which opens a gap unto false accusers, giuing unto the vnworthy the
                     rewards of the well deseruing. Who doth not remember (although I grieue to
                     remember) the blood of innocent citisens shed for gaine under a colour of
                     religion, to glut these horseleaches of the court? Therefore to auoide these
                     inconueniences of either part as much as may be, I see no better meanes than
                     that which I have said, That deducting the charges of the suit, his iust debts
                     being publick or priuate, and the rewards of the accusers; the surplusage of
                        <milestone n="E" unit="unspec"/> his inheritance should be left unto the
                     heires, and that which was purchased to charitable vses▪ prouided alwaies that
                     that which is giuen to the informers, or to the colleges in charitie, shall be
                     only in money and not in lands, for the reasons that I have formerly<note place="marg" anchored="true">Informers must be rewarded with money, and not with
                        lands.</note> giuen. As for charitable works, there neuer wants meanes to
                     imploy it, either in diuine things, or in publike works, or else about the
                     sicke or the poore. In old time at Rome amercements were adiudged to the
                     treasurie of Churches, to be imployed in sacrifices, and therefore they called
                     amercements <hi rend="italic">Sacramenta,</hi> as <hi rend="italic">Sextus
                        Pompeius</hi> saith: for which cause <hi rend="italic">Titius Romilius</hi>
                     refused the peoples bountie, which had decreed that <pb n="584" facs="294"/>
                     they should restore unto him the fine in the which he had bene condemned,
                        saying,<milestone n="F" unit="unspec"/> That things consecrated unto God
                     should not be taken from him. The like was also obserued in Greece for the
                     tenth of the goods that were confiscate, the which were adiudged unto the
                     Church, as we may see in the sentence giuen against <hi rend="italic">Archiptolome, Antiphon,</hi> and his consorts in Athence in the forme that
                     followeth. The 16 day of <hi rend="italic">Prytanee, Demonicus Dalopeie</hi>
                     being Register, and <hi rend="italic">Philostratus</hi> Captaine, at the
                     pursuite of <hi rend="italic">Andron</hi> touching <hi rend="italic">Archiptolemus, Onomaches,</hi> and <hi rend="italic">Antiphon,</hi> whome
                     the Captaine hath accused that they went to Lacedemon to the preiudice of the
                     Commonweale, and that they departed from the Camp in one of the enemies ships;
                     the Senat hath decreed, That they should be apprehended, and that the Captaine
                     with ten Senators named by the Senat, should determine of them, to the end they
                     might be punished, that <milestone n="G" unit="unspec"/> the Thesmothetes
                     should call them the next day, and bring them before the Iudges, and that the
                     Captaine or any other might accuse them, to the end that iudgement being<note place="marg" anchored="true">The law of Athens in cases of treason.</note> giuen, execution
                     might follow, according to the lawes made against traitors. And under the
                     decree the sentence is set downe in this sort, <hi rend="italic">Archiptolemus</hi> and <hi rend="italic">Antiphon</hi> were condemned and
                     delivered into the hands of eleuen executioners of iustice, their goods
                     forfaited, and the tenth reserued unto the goddesse <hi rend="italic">Minerua,</hi> and their houses razed: afterwards they did adiudge all vnto
                     the publike treasor, and yet the law did allow the Iudges to dispose in their
                     sentence as they should thinke the cause deserued for publike or charitable
                     vses, as we have a commendable custome in this realme. That which I have said
                     of successions should principallie take place, when as there is any <milestone n="H" unit="unspec"/> question of lands holden in fee, for the prerogative
                     and qualitie of the fee, affected to the antient families for the seruice of
                     the Commonweal. Wherin the Germans have well prouided, for in all confiscations
                     the next of kin are preferred before the publike<note place="marg" anchored="true">The law of
                        Germanie for confi<gap reason="illegible" extent="1+_letters" instant="false"/>cations.</note> treasurie when
                     there is any question of land in fee; wherby flatterers have no means to accuse
                     wrongfully, nor Princes to put good men to death for their fees▪ which seemes
                     to have been the reason that by the lawes of God the amercement was consecrated
                     unto God, and giuen to the high Priests, if he that had offended were not in
                     presence, or had no heires. And for that this Chapter concernes rewards and
                     punishments, order requires that we discourse of the one and the
                        other.<milestone n="I" unit="unspec"/>

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