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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div n="urn:cts:latinLit:phi1002.phi001.perseus-eng2" type="translation" xml:lang="eng"><div n="3" type="textpart" subtype="book"><div n="8" type="textpart" subtype="section"><div n="1" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p>VIII. I am surprised
                            that <hi rend="italic">deliberative</hi> oratory also has been
                            restricted by some authorities to questions of expediency. If it should
                            be necessary to assign one single aim to deliberative I should prefer
                            Cicero's <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">de
                                    Or.</hi> II. lxxxii. 334. </note> view that this kind of oratory
                            is primarily concerned with what is honourable. I do not doubt that
                            those who maintain the opinion first mentioned adopt the lofty view that
                            nothing can be expedient which is not good. </p></div><div n="2" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> That opinion is perfectly sound so long as we are fortunate enough to
                            have wise and good men for counsellors. But as we most often express our
                            views before an ignorant audience, and more especially before popular
                            assemblies, of which <pb n="v1-3 p.481"/> the majority is usually
                            uneducated, we must distinguish between what is honourable and what is
                            expedient and conform our utterances to suit ordinary understandings.
                        </p></div><div n="3" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> For there are many who do not admit that what they really believe to be
                            the honourable course is sufficiently advantageous, and are misled by
                            the prospect of advantage into approving courses of the dishonourable
                            nature of which there can be no question: witness the Numantine treaty
                            and the surrender of the Caudine Forks. <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"> Mancinus was surrounded on retreat from
                                Numiantia in 137 B. C., while the surrender at the Caudine Forks
                                took place in 321 B. C. In both cases the Senate refused to ratify
                                the humiliating treaties which had been made the price of the
                                release of the Roman armies. </note>
                     </p></div><div n="4" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Nor does it suffice to restrict deliberative oratory to the <hi rend="italic">basis</hi> of <hi rend="italic">quality</hi> which is
                            concerned with questions of honour and expediency. For there is often
                            room for conjecture as well. Sometimes again <hi rend="italic">definition</hi> is necessary or <hi rend="italic">legal</hi>
                            problems require handling; this is especially the case when advice has
                            to be given on private matters, where there is some doubt of the
                            legality of the course under consideration. Of <hi rend="italic">conjecture'</hi>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"> For <hi rend="italic">conjecture</hi> see III. vi. 30 <hi rend="italic">sqq.</hi>
                        </note>
                     </p></div><div n="5" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> I shall speak more fully a little later on. Returning to <hi rend="italic">definition</hi> for the moment, we find it in the
                            question raised by Demosthenes, <quote>whether Philip should give or
                                restore Halonnesus,</quote>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"> Halonnesus had belonged to Athens, but had been seized by pirates.
                                Philip ejected the pirates. The Athenians asked him to restore it;
                                he replied that it belonged to him and that there could be no
                                question of restoration, but if they asked for it as a gift he
                                promised to give it them. </note> and to that discussed by Cicero in
                            the <hi rend="italic">Philippics</hi>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"> VIII. i. 2, where the question is discussed as
                                to whether the war with Antony is <hi rend="italic">bellum</hi> or
                                    <hi rend="italic">tumultus,</hi> the latter being the technical
                                name for any grave national emergency such as civil war or a Gallic
                                invasion within the bounds of Italy. </note> as to the nature of a
                                <hi rend="italic">tumultus.</hi> Again does not the question raised
                            in connection with the statue of Servius Sulpicius <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">Phil.</hi> ix. 1. </note> as
                            to <quote> whether statues should be erected only in honour of those
                                ambassadors who perish by the sword </quote> bear a strong
                            resemblance to the questions that are raised in the law courts? </p></div><div n="6" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> The <hi rend="italic">deliberative</hi> department of oratory (also
                            called the <pb n="v1-3 p.483"/>
                        <hi rend="italic">advisory</hi>
                            department), while it deliberates about the future, also enquires about
                            the past, while its functions are twofold and consist in advising and
                            dissuading. <hi rend="italic">Deliberative</hi> oratory does not always
                            require an <hi rend="italic">exordium,</hi> such as is necessary in
                            forensic speeches, since he who asks an orator for his opinion is
                            naturally well disposed to him. But the commencement, whatever be its
                            nature, must have some resemblance to an <hi rend="italic">exordium.</hi> For we must not begin abruptly or just at the point
                            where the fancy takes us, since in every subject there is something
                            which naturally comes first. </p></div><div n="7" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> In addressing the senate or the people the same methods apply as in the
                            law courts, and we must aim as a rule at acquiring the goodwill of our
                            audience. This need cause no surprise, since even in <hi rend="italic">panegyric</hi> we seek to win the favour of our hearers when our
                            aim is praise pure and simple, and not the acquisition of any advantage.
                            Aristotle, <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">Rhet.</hi> iii. 14 </note>
                     </p></div><div n="8" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> it is true, holds, not without reason, that in <hi rend="italic">deliberative</hi> speeches we may often begin with a reference
                            either to ourselves or to our opponent, borrowing this practice <hi rend="italic">from</hi>
                        <hi rend="italic">forensic</hi> oratory, and
                            sometimes producing the impression that the subject is of greater or
                            less importance than it actually is. On the other hand he thinks that in
                                <hi rend="italic">demonstrative</hi> oratory the <hi rend="italic">exordium</hi> may be treated with the utmost freedom, </p></div></div></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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