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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div n="urn:cts:latinLit:phi1002.phi001.perseus-eng2" type="translation" xml:lang="eng"><div n="3" type="textpart" subtype="book"><div n="5" type="textpart" subtype="chapter"><div n="1" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Every speech however consists at once of that which is expressed and
                            that which expresses, that is to say of matter and words. Skill in
                            speaking is perfected by nature, art and practice, to which some add a
                            fourth department, namely imitation, which I however prefer to include
                            under art. </p></div><div n="2" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> There are also three aims which the orator must always have in view; he
                            must instruct, move and charm his hearers. This is a clearer division
                            than that made by those who divide the task of oratory into that which
                            relates to things and that which concerns the emotions, <pb n="v1-3 p.399"/> since both of these will not always be present in
                            the subjects which we shall have to treat. For some themes are far from
                            calling for any appeal to the emotions, which, although room cannot
                            always be found for them, produce a most powerful effect wherever they
                            do succeed in forcing their way. </p></div><div n="3" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> The best authorities hold that there are some things in oratory which
                            require proof and others which do not, a view with which I agree. Some
                            on the other hand, as for instance Celsus, think that the orator will
                            not speak on any subject unless there is some question involved in it;
                            but the majority of writers on rhetoric are against him, as is also the
                            threefold division of oratory, unless indeed to praise what is allowed
                            to be honourable and to denounce what is admittedly disgraceful are no
                            part of an orator's duty. </p></div><div n="4" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> It is, however, universally agreed that all questions must be concerned
                            either with something that is written or something that is not. Those
                            concerned with what is written are questions of law, those which concern
                            what is not written are questions of fact. Hermagoras calls the latter
                                <hi rend="italic">rational</hi> questions, the former <hi rend="italic">legal</hi> questions, for so we may translate <foreign xml:lang="grc">λογικόν</foreign> and <foreign xml:lang="grc">νομικόν.</foreign>
                     </p></div><div n="5" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Those who hold that every question concerns either things or words, mean
                            much the same. It is also agreed that questions are either <hi rend="italic">definite</hi> or <hi rend="italic">indefinite.
                                Indefinite</hi> questions are those which may be maintained or
                            impugned without reference to persons, time or place and the like. The
                            Greeks call them <hi rend="italic">theses,</hi> Cicero <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">Top.</hi> xxi.
                                79. </note>
                        <hi rend="italic">propositions,</hi> others <hi rend="italic">general questions relating to civil life,</hi> others
                            again <hi rend="italic">questions suited for philosophical
                                discussion,</hi> while Athenaeus calls them <hi rend="italic">parts
                                of a cause.</hi>
                     </p></div><div n="6" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Cicero <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">Top.</hi> 81; <hi rend="italic">Part. Or.</hi> xviii. 62.
                            </note> distinguishes two kinds, the one concerned with <hi rend="italic">knowledge,</hi> the other with <hi rend="italic">action.</hi> Thus <quote> Is the world governed by <pb n="v1-3 p.401"/> providence? </quote> is a question of
                            knowledge, while <quote>Should we enter politics?</quote> is a question
                            of action. The first involves three questions, whether a thing is, what
                            it is, and of what nature: for all these things may be unknown: the
                            second involves two, how to obtain power and how to use it. </p></div><div n="7" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p><hi rend="italic">Definite</hi> questions involve facts, persons, time
                            and the like. The Greeks call them <hi rend="italic">hypotheses,</hi>
                            while we call them <hi rend="italic">causes.</hi> In these the whole
                            question turns on persons and facts. </p></div><div n="8" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> An <hi rend="italic">indefinite</hi> question is always the more
                            comprehensive, since it is from the <hi rend="italic">indefinite</hi>
                            question that the <hi rend="italic">definite</hi> is derived. I will
                            illustrate what I mean by an example. The question <quote>Should a man
                                marry?</quote> is <hi rend="italic">indefinite;</hi> the question
                                <quote>Should Cato marry?</quote> is <hi rend="italic">definite,</hi> and consequently may be regarded as a subject for a
                                <hi rend="italic">deliberative</hi> theme. But even those which have
                            no connexion with particular persons are generally given a specific
                            reference. For instance the question <quote>Ought we to take a share in
                                the government of our country?</quote> is abstract, whereas
                                <quote>Ought we to take part in the government of our country under
                                the sway of a tyrant?</quote> has a specific reference. </p></div><div n="9" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> But in this latter case we may say that a person is tacitly implied. For
                            the mention of a tyrant doubles the question, and there is an implicit
                            admission of time and quality; but all the same you would scarcely be
                            justified in calling it a cause or definite question. Those questions
                            which I have styled indefinite are also called <hi rend="italic">general:</hi> if this is correct, we shall have to call definite
                            questions <hi rend="italic">special</hi> questions. But in every special
                            question the general question is implicit, since the <hi rend="italic">genus</hi> is logically prior to the <hi rend="italic">species.</hi>
                     </p></div><div n="10" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> And perhaps even in actual causes wherever the notion of quality comes
                            into question, there is a certain intrusion of <pb n="v1-3 p.403"/> the
                            abstract. <quote>Milo killed Clodius: he was justified in killing one
                                who lay in wait for him.</quote> Does not this raise the general
                            question as to whether we have the right to kill a man who lies in wait
                            for us? What again of conjectures? May not they be of a general
                            character, as for instance, <quote>What was the motive for the crime?
                                hatred? covetousness?</quote> or <quote>Are we justified in
                                believing confessions made under torture?</quote> or <quote>Which
                                should carry greater weight, evidence or argument?</quote> As for
                            definitions, everything that they contain is undoubtedly of a general
                            nature. </p></div><div n="11" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> There are some who hold that even those questions which have reference
                            to persons and particular cases may at times be called <hi rend="italic">theses,</hi> provided only they are put slightly differently: for
                            instance, if Orestes be accused, we shall have a <hi rend="italic">cause:</hi> whereas if it is put as question, namely <quote>Was
                                Orestes rightly acquitted?</quote> it will be a <hi rend="italic">thesis.</hi> To the same class as this last belongs the question
                                <quote>Was Cato right in transferring Marcia to Hortensius?</quote>
                            These persons distinguish a <hi rend="italic">thesis</hi> from a <hi rend="italic">cause</hi> as follows: a <hi rend="italic">thesis</hi>
                            is theoretical in character, while a <hi rend="italic">cause</hi> has
                            relation to actual facts, since in the former case we argue merely with
                            a view to abstract truth, while in the latter we have to deal with some
                            particular act. </p></div><div n="12" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Some, however, think that general questions are useless to an orator,
                            since no profit is to be derived from proving that we ought to marry or
                            to take part in politics, if we are prevented from so doing by age or
                            ill health. But not all general questions are liable to this kind of
                            objection. For instance questions such as <quote>Is virtue an end in
                                itself?</quote> or <quote>Is the world governed by
                                providence?</quote> cannot be countered in this way. </p></div><div n="13" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Further in questions <pb n="v1-3 p.405"/> which have reference to a
                            particular person, although it is not sufficient merely to handle the
                            general question, we cannot arrive at any conclusion on the special
                            point until we have first discussed the general question. For how is
                            Cato to deliberate <quote>whether he personally is to marry,</quote>
                            unless the general question <quote>whether marriage is desirable</quote>
                            is first settled? And how is he to deliberate <quote>whether he should
                                marry Marcia,</quote> unless it is proved that it is the duty of
                            Cato to marry? </p></div><div n="14" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> There are, however, certain books attributed to Hermagoras which support
                            this erroneous opinion, though whether the attribution is spurious or
                            whether they were written by another Hermagoras is an open question. For
                            they cannot possibly be by the famous Hermagoras, who wrote so much that
                            was admirable on the art of rhetoric, since, as is clear from the first
                            book of the Rhetorica of Cicero, <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">de Inv.</hi> i. 6. </note> he
                            divided the material of rhetoric into <hi rend="italic">theses and
                                causes.</hi> Cicero objects to this division, contends that <hi rend="italic">theses</hi> have nothing to do with an orator, and
                            refers all this class of questions to the philosophers. </p></div><div n="15" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> But Cicero has relieved me of any feeling of shame that I might have in
                            controverting his opinion, since he has not only expressed his
                            disapproval of his Rhetorica, but in the <hi rend="italic">Orator,</hi>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">Orator</hi> xiv. 45. </note> the <hi rend="italic">de Oratore</hi> and the <hi rend="italic">Topica</hi>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"><hi rend="italic">de Or.</hi>
                                iii. 30; <hi rend="italic">Top.</hi> 21. </note> instructs us to
                            abstract such discussions from particular persons and occasions, <quote>
                                because we can speak more fully on general than on special themes,
                                and because what is proved of the whole must also be proved of the
                                part. </quote>
                     </p></div><div n="16" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> In all general questions, however, the essential <hi rend="italic">basis</hi> is the same as in a cause or definite question. It is
                            further pointed out that there are some questions which <pb n="v1-3 p.407"/> concern <quote>things in themselves,</quote> while
                            others have a particular reference; an example of the former will be the
                            question <quote>Should a man marry?</quote> of the latter <quote>Should
                                an old man marry?</quote> ; or again the question whether a man is
                            brave will illustrate the first, while the question whether he is braver
                            than another will exemplify the second. </p></div></div></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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