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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div n="urn:cts:latinLit:phi1002.phi001.perseus-eng2" type="translation" xml:lang="eng"><div n="12" type="textpart" subtype="book"><div n="1" type="textpart" subtype="chapter"><div n="41" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Again, suppose that the judge is likely to condemn acts which were
                            rightly done, unless we can convince him that they were never done. Is
                            not this another case where the orator will not shrink even from lies,
                            if so he may save one who is not merely innocent, but a praiseworthy
                            citizen? Again, suppose that we realise that certain acts are just in
                            themselves, though prejudicial to the state under existing
                            circumstances. Shall we not then employ methods of speaking which,
                            despite the excellence of their intention, bear a close resemblance to
                            fraud. </p></div><div n="42" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Further, no one will hesitate for a moment to hold the view that it is
                            in the interests of the commonwealth that guilty persons should be
                            acquitted rather than punished, if it be possible thereby to convert
                            them to a better state of mind, a possibility which is generally
                            conceded. If then it is clear to an orator that a man who is guilty of
                            the offences laid to his charge will become a good man, will he not
                            strive to secure his acquittal? </p></div><div n="43" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Imagine for example that a skilful commander, without whose aid the
                            state cannot hope to crush its enemies, is labouring under a charge
                            which is obviously true: will not the common interest irresistibly
                            summon our orator to defend him? We know at any rate that Fabricius
                            publicly voted for and secured the election to the consulate of
                            Cornelius Rufinus, <pb n="v10-12 p.381"/> despite the tact that he was a
                            bad citizen and his personal enemy, merely because he knew that he was a
                            capable general and the state was threatened with war. <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"> The late is uncertain, but the
                                reference must be either to the Samnite war of 290 or the war with
                                Pyrrhus. </note> And when certain persons expressed their surprise
                            at his conduct, he replied that he had rather be robbed by a
                            fellow-citizen than be sold as a slave by the enemy. Well then, had
                            Fabricius been an orator, would he not have defended Rufinus against a
                            charge of peculation, even though his guilt were as clear as day? </p></div><div n="44" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> I might produce many other similar examples, but one of them taken at
                            random is enough. For my purpose is not to assert that such tasks will
                            often be incumbent on the orator whom I desire to form, but merely to
                            show that, in the event of his being compelled to take such action, it
                            will not invalidate our definition of an orator as a <quote>good man,
                                skilled in speaking.</quote>
                     </p></div><div n="45" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> And it is necessary also both to teach and learn how to establish
                            difficult cases by proof. For often even the best cases have a
                            resemblance to bad and, the charges which tell heavily against an
                            innocent person frequently have a strong resemblance to the truth.
                            Consequently, the same methods of defence have to be employed that would
                            be used if he were guilty. Further, there are countless elements which
                            are common to both good cases and bad, such as oral and documentary
                            evidence, suspicions and opinions, all of which have to be established
                            or disposed of in the same way, whether they be true or merely resemble
                            the truth. Therefore, while maintaining his integrity of purpose, the
                            orator will modify his pleading to suit the circumstances. </p></div></div><div n="2" type="textpart" subtype="chapter"><div n="1" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Since then the orator is a good man, and such goodness cannot be
                            conceived as existing apart from <pb n="v10-12 p.383"/> virtue, virtue,
                            despite the fact that it is in part derived from certain natural
                            impulses, will require to be perfected by instruction. The orator must
                            above all things devote his attention to the formation of moral
                            character and must acquire a complete knowledge of all that is just and
                            honourable. For without this knowledge no one can be either a good man
                            or skilled in speaking, </p></div><div n="2" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> unless indeed we agree with those who regard morality as intuitive and
                            as owing nothing to instruction: indeed they go so far as to acknowledge
                            that handicrafts, not excluding even those which are most despised among
                            them, can only be acquired by the result of teaching, whereas virtue,
                            which of all gifts to man is that which makes him most near akin to the
                            immortal gods, comes to him without search or effort, as a natural
                            concomitant of birth. But can the man who does not know what abstinence
                            is, claim to be truly abstinent? </p></div><div n="3" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> or brave, if he has never purged his soul of the fears of pain, death
                            and superstition? or just, it he has never, in language approaching that
                            of philosophy, discussed the nature of virtue and justice, or of the
                            laws that have been given to mankind by nature or established among
                            individual peoples and nations? What a contempt it argues for such
                            themes to regard them as being so easy of comprehension! </p></div><div n="4" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> However, I pass this by; for I am sure that no one with the least
                            smattering of literary culture will have the slightest hesitation in
                            agreeing with me. I will proceed to my next point, that no one will
                            achieve sufficient skill even in speaking, unless he makes a thorough
                            study of all the workings of nature and forms his character on the
                            precepts of philosophy and the dictates of reason. </p></div><div n="5" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> For it is with good cause that Lucius Crassus, in the <pb n="v10-12 p.385"/> third book of the <hi rend="italic">de Oratore,</hi>
                        <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">Chs. xx. xxvii. and xxxi.</note>
                            affirms that all that is said concerning equity, justice, truth and the
                            good, and their opposites, forms part of the studies of an orator, and
                            that the philosophers, when they exert their powers of speaking to
                            defend these virtues, are using the weapons of rhetoric, not their own.
                            But he also confesses that the knowledge of these subjects must be
                            sought from the philosophers for the reason that, in his opinion,
                            philosophy has more effective possession of them. </p></div><div n="6" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> And it is for the same reason that Cicero in several of his books and
                            letters proclaims that eloquence has its fountain-head in the most
                            secret springs of wisdom, and that consequently for a considerable time
                            the instructors of morals and of eloquence were identical. Accordingly
                            this exhortation of mine must not be taken to mean that I wish the
                            orator to be a philosopher, since there is no other way of life that is
                            further removed from the duties of a statesman and the tasks of an
                            orator. </p></div><div n="7" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> For what philosopher has ever been a frequent speaker in the courts or
                            won renown in public assemblies? Nay, what philosopher has ever taken a
                            prominent part in the government of the state, which forms the most
                            frequent theme of their instructions? None the less I desire that he,
                            whose character I am seeking to mould, should be a <quote>wise
                                man</quote> in the Roman sense, that is, one who reveals himself as
                            a true statesman, not in the discussions of the study, but in the actual
                            practice and experience of life. </p></div><div n="8" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> But inasmuch as the study of philosophy has been deserted by those who
                            have turned to the pursuit of eloquence, and since philosophy no longer
                            moves in its true sphere of action and in the broad daylight of the
                            forum, but has retired first to porches and <pb n="v10-12 p.387"/>
                            gymnasia and finally to the gatherings of the schools, all that is
                            essential for an orator, and yet is not taught by the professors of
                            eloquence, must undoubtedly be sought from those persons in whose
                            possession it has remained. The authors who have discoursed on the
                            nature of virtue must be read through and through, that the life of the
                            orator may be wedded to the knowledge of things human and divine. </p></div><div n="9" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> But how much greater and fairer would such subjects appear if those who
                            taught them were also those who could give them most eloquent
                            expression! O that the day may dawn when the perfect orator of our
                            heart's desire shall claim for his own possession that science that has
                            lost the affection of mankind through the arrogance of its claims and
                            the vices of some that have brought disgrace upon its virtues, and shall
                            restore it to its place in the domain of eloquence, as though he had
                            been victorious in a trial for the restoration of stolen goods! </p></div><div n="10" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> And since philosophy falls into three divisions, physics, ethics and
                            dialectic, which, I ask you, of these departments is not closely
                            connected with the task of the orator? Let us reverse the order just
                            given and deal first with the third department which is entirely
                            concerned with words. If it be true that to know the properties of each
                            word, to clear away ambiguities, to unravel perplexities, to distinguish
                            between truth and falsehood, to prove or to refute as may be desired,
                            all form part of the functions of an orator, who is there that can doubt
                            the truth of my contention? </p></div><div n="11" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> I grant that we shall not have to employ dialectic with such minute
                            attention to detail when we are pleading in the courts as when we are
                                <pb n="v10-12 p.389"/> engaged in philosophical debate, since the
                            orator's duty is not merely to instruct, but also to move and delight
                            his audience; and to succeed in doing this he needs a strength,
                            impetuosity and grace as well. For oratory is like a river: the current
                            is stronger when it flows within deep banks and with a mighty flood,
                            than when the waters are shallow and broken by the pebbles that bar
                            their way. </p></div><div n="12" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> And just as the trainers of the wrestling school do not impart the
                            various <hi rend="italic">throws</hi> to their pupils that those who
                            have learnt them may make use of all of them in actual wrestling matches
                            (for weight and strength and wind count for more than these), but that
                            they may have a store from which to draw one or two of such tricks, as
                            occasion may offer; </p></div><div n="13" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> even so the science of dialectic, or if you prefer it of disputation,
                            while it is often useful in definition, inference, differentiation,
                            resolution of ambiguity, distinction and classification, as also in
                            luring on or entangling our opponents, yet if it claim to assume the
                            entire direction of the struggles of the forum, will merely stand in the
                            way of arts superior to itself and by its very subtlety will exhaust the
                            strength that has been pared down to suit its limitations. </p></div><div n="14" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> As a result you will find that certain persons who show astonishing
                            skill in philosophical debate, as soon as they quit the sphere of their
                            quibbles, are as helpless in any case that demands more serious pleading
                            as those small animals which, though nimble enough in a confined space,
                            are easily captured in an open field. </p></div><div n="15" type="textpart" subtype="section"><p> Proceeding to moral philosophy or ethics, we may note that it at any
                            rate is entirely suited to the orator. For vast as is the variety of
                            cases (since in <pb n="v10-12 p.391"/> them, as I have pointed out in
                            previous books, we seek to discover certain points by conjecture, <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"> See <milestone n="3" unit="chapter"/>
                           <milestone n="1" unit="section"/> vi. 45.
                            </note> reach our conclusions in others by means of definition, <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">See III. vi. 45.</note> dispose
                            of others on legal grounds' or by raising the question of competence,
                                <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">See ill. vi. 23.</note>
                            while other points are established by syllogism <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">See III. vi. 15.</note> and others involve
                            contradictions <note anchored="true" place="unspecified"> Probably an
                                allusion to contradictory laws. See VIII. vii. </note> or are
                            diversely interpreted owing to some ambiguity of language <note anchored="true" place="unspecified">See VII. ix.</note> ), there is
                            scarcely a single one which does not at some point or another involve
                            the discussion of equity and virtue, while there are also, as everyone
                            knows, not a few which turn entirely on questions of quality. </p></div></div></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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