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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text><body><div n="urn:cts:latinLit:phi0914.phi001.perseus-eng3" type="edition" xml:lang="eng"><div n="9" subtype="book" type="textpart"><div n="8" subtype="chapter" type="textpart"><div n="15" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Further, they said they did not deserve any punishment for having saved
							the Roman army by undertaking to procure peace,<note anchored="true" n="3" resp="ed" place="unspecified">Livy evidently assumes that
								these two tribunes of the plebs were with the army, a most unusual
								arrangement, as they were supposed to be watching over the interests
								of the plebs within the walls of Rome. But the whole strength of
								Rome, i. e., the great majority of the plebeians, were at Caudium,
								so the presence of all the tribunes in the City might not have been
								necessary.</note> and they urged as a final reason that as they, the
							tribunes, were sacrosanct and their persons inviolable they could not be
							surrendered to the enemy or exposed to any violence. </p></div></div><div n="9" subtype="chapter" type="textpart"><div n="1" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>To this Postumius replied: “In the meanwhile, surrender us, whom
							no inviolability protects and whose surrender will violate no man's
							conscience. </p></div><div n="2" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Afterwards you will surrender those “sacrosanct” gentlemen
							also as soon as their year of office expires, but if you take my advice
							you will see that before they are surrendered they are scourged in the
							Forum by way of paying interest for a punishment that will have been
							delayed. </p></div><div n="3" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Why, who is so ignorant of fetial law as not to see that these men are
							saying this, not because it represents the fact but to prevent their
							being surrendered? </p></div><div n="4" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> I do not deny, senators, that where the pledged words of men are held to
							possess a binding force only second to the sanctions of religion, then
							such undertakings as we have given are as sacred as formal treaties. But
							I do say that without the express order of the people nothing can be
							ratified which can bind the people. </p></div><div n="5" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Suppose the Samnites, in the same spirit of insolent pride in which they
							extorted this capitulation from us, had compelled us to recite the
							formula for the surrender of cities,<note anchored="true" n="4" resp="ed" place="unspecified">For this formula, see Vol. I. p. 45.</note>
							would you say, tribunes, that the Roman people was surrendered and that
							this City with its shrines and temples, its territory, and its waters
							had become the property of the Samnites? I say no more about surrender,
							because what we are considering is the pledge we gave in the
							capitulation. </p></div><div n="6" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Well now, suppose we had given a pledge that the Roman people would
							abandon this City, would burn it, would no longer have its own
							magistrates and senates and laws, but would live under the rule of
							kings. “Heaven forbid!” you say. </p></div><div n="7" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Yes, but the binding force of a capitulation is not lightened by the
							humiliating nature of its terms. If the people can be bound by any
							article, it can by all. The point which some consider important, namely
							whether it is a consul or a Dictator or a praetor who has given the
							undertaking is of no weight whatever. </p></div><div n="8" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> The Samnites themselves made this clear, for it was not enough for them
							that the consuls pledged themselves, they compelled the staff-officers,
							the quaestors, and the military tribunes to do the same.” </p></div><div n="9" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> “Now no one need say to me, “Why did you pledge yourself
							in that way, seeing that a consul has no right to do so and you were not
							in a position to promise them a peace of which you could not guarantee
							the ratification, or to act on behalf of the people when they had given
							you no mandate to do so?” </p></div><div n="10" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Nothing that happened at Caudium, senators, was dictated by human
							prudence; the gods deprived both the enemy's commanders and your own of
							their senses. We did not exercise sufficient caution in our various
							movements, they in their folly threw away a victory when they had won
							through our folly. </p></div><div n="11" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> They hardly felt safe on the very ground which gave them their victory,
							such a hurry were they in to agree to any conditions if only they could
							deprive of their arms men who were home to arms. </p></div><div n="12" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> If they had been in their senses, would they have had any difficulty in
							sending envoys to Rome whilst they were fetching an old man from his
							home to advise them? Was it impossible for them to enter into
							negotiations with the senate and with the people about securing peace
							and making a treaty? </p></div><div n="13" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> It is a three days' journey for lightly-equipped horsemen, and in the
							meantime there would have been an armistice until the envoys returned
							bringing either peace or the certainty of their victory. Then and then
							only would there have been a binding agreement, because we should have
							made it by order of the people. </p></div></div></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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