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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg020.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="41" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Furthermore, while I grant that no one else in the world could reconcile these cities,
          yet nothing of the sort is difficult for you; for I see that you have carried through to a
          successful end many undertakings which the rest of the world looked upon as hopeless and
          unthinkable, and therefore it would be nothing strange if you should be able single-handed
          to affect this union. In fact, men of high purposes and exceptional gifts ought not to
          undertake enterprises which any of the common run might carry out with success, but rather
          those which no one would attempt save men with endowments and power such as you possess.
        </p></div><div n="42" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> But I marvel that those who think that none of these proposals could possibly be carried
          out are not aware, either by their own knowledge or by tradition, that there have been
          many terrible wars after which the participants have come to an understanding and rendered
          great services to one another. For what could exceed the enmity which the Hellenes felt
          toward Xerxes? Yet everyone knows that we and the Lacedaemonians came to prize his
            friendship<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The expression is loose. He means that the
            hatred for <placeName key="tgn,7000231">Persia</placeName> under Xerxes changed to
            friendship under Artaxerxes when the Peace of Antalcidas was made. Cf. Sparta's “love”
            for <placeName key="tgn,7000231">Persia</placeName> mentioned in <bibl n="Isoc. 12.102">Isoc. 12.102-103</bibl>.</note> more than that of those who helped us to establish
          our respective empires. </p></div><div n="43" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But why speak of ancient history, or of our dealings with the barbarians? If one should
          scan and review the misfortunes of the Hellenes in general, these will appear as nothing
          in comparison with those which we Athenians have experienced through the Thebans and the
            Lacedaemonians.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Especially at the close of the
            Peloponnesian War. See <bibl n="Isoc. 14.31">Isoc. 14.31</bibl>; <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 3.5.8">Xen. Hell. 3.5.8</bibl>.</note> Nevertheless, when the
          Lacedaemonians took the field against the Thebans and were minded to humiliate <placeName key="tgn,7002683">Boeotia</placeName> and break up the league of her cities, we sent a
          relief expedition<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Under Chabrias, against Agesilaus, <date when="-0378">378 B.C.</date>
            <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 5.4">Xen. Hell. 5.4</bibl>; Grote, <title>Hist.</title> ix. p.
            343.</note> and thwarted the desires of the Lacedaemonians. </p></div><div n="44" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And again, when fortune shifted her favor<note anchored="true" resp="ed"><placeName key="perseus,Thebes">Thebes</placeName> became the supreme power in <placeName key="tgn,1000074">Greece</placeName> by the battle of Leuctra, <date when="-0371">371
              B.C.</date></note> and the Thebans and the Peloponnesians were one and all trying to
          devastate <placeName key="tgn,7011065">Lacedaemon</placeName>, we alone among the Hellenes
            formed<note anchored="true" resp="ed"><date when="-0361">361 B.C.</date></note> an
          alliance with the Lacedaemonians and helped to save them from destruction.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">In <date when="-0362">362 B.C.</date>, when Epaminondas, at
            the head of the Thebans and their allies, including the Argives, Arcadians, Messenians,
            and the Eleans, marched on <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> to destroy
            her, the Athenians dispatched Iphicrates with an army of twelve thousand to the rescue.
            See <bibl n="Isoc. 8.105">Isoc. 8.105</bibl>; <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 6.5.23">Xen. Hell.
              6.5.23 ff.</bibl>; Grote, <title>Hist.</title> x. pp. 89 ff.</note>
        </p></div><div n="45" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>So then, seeing that such great reversals are wont to occur, and that our states care
          nothing about their former enmities or about their oaths or about anything else save what
          they conceive to be expedient for themselves, and that expediency is the sole object to
          which they give their affections and devote all their zeal, no man, unless obsessed by
          utter folly, could fail to believe that now also they will show the same disposition,
          especially if you take the lead in their reconciliation, while selfish interests urge and
          present ills constrain them to this course. I, for my part, believe that, with these
          influences fighting on your side, everything will turn out as it should. </p></div><div n="46" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> But I think that you can get most light on the question whether these cities are
          inclined toward peace with each other or toward war, if I review, not merely in general
          terms nor yet with excessive detail, the principal facts in their present situation. And
          first of all, let us consider the condition of the Lacedaemonians. </p></div><div n="47" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> The Lacedaemonians were the leaders of the Hellenes,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The
            hegemony of <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> lasted from the battle of
              <placeName key="tgn,6000070">Aegospotami</placeName>, <date when="-0405">405
              B.C.</date>, to the battle of Leuctra, <date when="-0371">371 B.C.</date></note> not
          long ago, on both land and sea, and yet they suffered so great a reversal of fortune when
          they met defeat at Leuctra that they were deprived of their power over the Hellenes, and
          lost such of their warriors as chose to die rather than survive defeat at the hands of
          those over whom they had once been masters. </p></div><div n="48" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Furthermore, they were obliged to look on while all the Peloponnesians, who formerly had
          followed the lead of <placeName key="tgn,7011065">Lacedaemon</placeName> against the rest
          of the world, united with the Thebans and invaded their territory; and against these the
          Lacedaemonians were compelled to risk battle, not in the country to save the crops, but in
          the heart of the city,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Epaminondas (see 44 and note)
            actually entered <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>. <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 7.5.11">Xen. Hell. 7.5.11</bibl>.</note> before the very seat of their
          government, to save their wives and children—a crisis in which defeat meant instant
          destruction, </p></div><div n="49" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>and victory has none the more delivered them from their ills; nay, they are now warred
          upon by their neighbors<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The Argives and the Messenians were
            allied with Philip against <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>. See <bibl n="Dem. 6.9">Dem. 6.9, 15</bibl>.</note>; they are distrusted by all the
            Peloponnesians<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Besides the Argives and Messenians, also
            the Arcadians, the Megalopolitans, the Eleans, and the Sicyonians. <bibl n="Diod. 16.39">Dio. Sic. 16.39</bibl>.</note>; they are hated by most of the Hellenes<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Especially by the Athenians and the Thebans. <bibl n="Dem. 16.22">Dem. 16.22-23</bibl>.</note>; they are harried and plundered day and
          night by their own serfs<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The Helots.</note>; and not a day
          passes that they do not have to take the field or fight against some force or other, or
          march to the rescue of their perishing comrades. </p></div><div n="50" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But the worst of their afflictions is that they live in continual fear that the Thebans
          may patch up their quarrel with the Phocians<note anchored="true" resp="ed"><placeName key="perseus,Thebes">Thebes</placeName> was the principal enemy of the Phocians in the
            Sacred War, which was now drawing to a close. For this war see Grote,
              <title>Hist.</title> xi. p. 45.</note> and, returning again,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">As in the campaign referred to in 44, which ended with the battle of
              <placeName key="perseus,Mantinea">Mantinea</placeName>.</note> ring them about with
          still greater calamities than have befallen them in the past. How, then, can we refuse to
          believe that people so hard pressed would gladly see at the head of a movement for peace a
          man who commands confidence and has the power to put an end to the wars in which they are
          involved? </p></div><div n="51" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Now as to the Argives, you will see that in some respects they are no better off than
          the Lacedaemonians, while in others their condition is worse; for they have been in a
          state of war with their neighbors<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The Spartans.</note> from
          the day they founded their city, just as have the Lacedaemonians; but there is this
          difference, that the neighbors of the Lacedaemonians are weaker than they, while those of
          the Argives are stronger—a condition which all would admit to be the greatest of
          misfortunes. And so unsuccessful are they in their warfare that hardly a year passes that
          they are not compelled to witness their own territory being ravaged and laid waste.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">This was done by the Spartans six years before this. <bibl n="Diod. 16.39">Dio. Sic. 16.39</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="52" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But what is most deplorable of all is that, during the intervals when their enemies cease
          from harrying them, they themselves put to death the most eminent and wealthy of their
            citizens;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The conflict between democracy and oligarchy,
            which raged with varying intensity in most of the Greek cities, in <placeName key="perseus,Argos">Argos</placeName> was most bitter. In <date when="-0371">371
              B.C.</date> occurred a massacre in which twelve hundred of the leading men were slain
            by the mob. <bibl n="Diod. 15.57">Dio. Sic. 15.57-58</bibl>; Grote, <title>Hist.</title>
            ix. p. 417.</note> and they have more pleasure in doing this than any other people have
          in slaying their foes. The cause of their living in such disorder is none other than the
          state of war; and if you can put a stop to this, you will not only deliver them from these
          evils but you will cause them to adopt a better policy with respect to their other
          interests as well. </p></div><div n="53" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> And as for the condition of the Thebans, surely you have not failed to note that also.
          They won a splendid victory<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Battle of Leuctra, <date when="-0371">371 B.C.</date></note> and covered themselves with glory, but because
          they did not make good use of their success they are now in no better case than those who
          have suffered defeat and failure. For no sooner had they triumphed over their foes than,
          neglecting everything else, they began to annoy the cities of the <placeName key="tgn,7017076">Peloponnese</placeName>;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Epaminondas
            invaded the <placeName key="tgn,7017076">Peloponnese</placeName> in 369, 368, 366, 362,
            stirring up the cities there against <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName>.
              <bibl n="Diod. 15.62">Dio. Sic. 15.62-75</bibl>.</note> they made bold to reduce
            <placeName key="tgn,7001399">Thessaly</placeName> to subjection;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">By conquering Alexander of Pherae. <bibl n="Diod. 15.67">Dio. Sic.
              15.67</bibl>.</note> they threatened their neighbors, the Megarians;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The Megarians sided with <placeName key="perseus,Sparta">Sparta</placeName> when Agesilaus invaded <placeName key="tgn,7002683">Boeotia</placeName> in 378. <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 5.4.41">Xen. Hell.
            5.4.41</bibl>.</note> they robbed our city of a portion of its territory;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The border town of Oropus, <date when="-0366">366 B.C.</date>
            <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 7.4.1">Xen. Hell. 7.4.1</bibl>.</note> they ravaged <placeName key="tgn,7002677">Euboea</placeName>;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Dem. 18.99">Dem. 18.99</bibl>.</note> they sent men-of-war to <placeName key="perseus,Byzantium">Byzantium</placeName>,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">One
            hundred ships under Epaminondas, <date when="-0364">364 B.C.</date>
            <bibl n="Diod. 15.78">Dio. Sic. 15.78-79</bibl>.</note> as if they purposed to rule both
          land and sea; </p></div><div n="54" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>and, finally, they began war upon the Phocians,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Ten years,
              <date from="-0356" to="-0346">356-346 B.C.</date> See <bibl n="Isoc. 5.50">Isoc. 5.50</bibl>.</note> expecting that in a short time they would conquer their
          cities, occupy all the surrounding territory, and prevail over all the treasures at
            <placeName key="perseus,Delphi">Delphi</placeName><note anchored="true" resp="ed">The
            Phocians met their expenses in the war from the rich treasures in the Temple of Apollo
            at <placeName key="perseus,Delphi">Delphi</placeName>.</note> by the outlay of their own
          funds. But none of these hopes has been realized; instead of seizing the cities of the
          Phocians they have lost cities of their own;<note anchored="true" resp="ed"><placeName key="tgn,7011034">Orchomenus</placeName>, Coroneia, Corsiae. <bibl n="Diod. 16.33">Dio. Sic. 16.33-58</bibl>.</note> and now when they invade the enemy's territory they
          inflict less damage upon them than they suffer when they are retreating to their own
          country; </p></div><div n="55" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>for while they are in Phocian territory they succeed in killing a few hireling<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The Phocian forces were composed mainly of mercenaries.</note>
          soldiers who are better off dead than alive, but when they retreat they lose of their own
          citizens those who are most esteemed and most ready to die for their fatherland. And so
          completely have their fortunes shifted, that whereas they once hoped that all <placeName key="tgn,1000074">Hellas</placeName> would be subject to them, now they rest upon
            you<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The war was concluded shortly after this by the
            intervention of Philip against the Phocians.</note> the hopes of their own deliverance.
          Therefore I think that the Thebans also will do with alacrity whatever you command or
          advise. </p></div><div n="56" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> It would still remain for me to speak about our city, had she not come to her senses
          before the others and made peace; but now I need only say this: I think that she will join
          forces with you in carrying out your policy, especially if she can be made to see that
          your object is to prepare for the campaign against the barbarians. </p></div><div n="57" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> That it is not, therefore, impossible for you to bring these cities together, I think
          has become evident to you from what I have said. But more than that, I believe I can
          convince you by many examples that it will also be easy for you to do this. For if it can
          be shown that other men in the past have undertaken enterprises which were not, indeed,
          more noble or more righteous than that which I have advised, but of greater magnitude and
          difficulty, and have actually brought them to pass, what ground will be left to my
          opponents to argue that you will not accomplish the easier task more quickly than other
          men the harder? </p></div><div n="58" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Consider first the exploits of Alcibiades.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">For the career
            of the brilliant, unscrupulous Alcibiades see Grote, <title>Hist.</title> vi. pp. 301
            ff., vii. 49 ff., and <bibl n="Plut. Alc. 1">Plut. Alc.</bibl></note> Although he was
          exiled from <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName><note anchored="true" resp="ed">He was exiled on the charge of having profaned the Eleusinian
            Mysteries.</note> and observed that the others who had before labored under this
          misfortune had been cowed<note anchored="true" resp="ed">For example, Themistocles.</note>
          because of the greatness of the city, yet he did not show the same submissive spirit as
          they; on the contrary, convinced that he must attempt to bring about his return by force,
          he deliberately chose to make war upon her.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">By stirring up
            and aiding, through his great personal influence and his sagacity, all the enemies of
              <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> in the Peloponnesian War.</note>
        </p></div><div n="59" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Now if one should attempt to speak in detail of the events of that time, he would find it
          impossible to recount them all exactly, and for the present occasion the recital would
          perhaps prove wearisome. But so great was the confusion into which he plunged not only
            <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> but <placeName key="tgn,7011065">Lacedaemon</placeName> and all the rest of <placeName key="tgn,1000074">Hellas</placeName> as well, that we, the Athenians, suffered what all the world
            knows;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The defeat at <placeName key="tgn,6000070">Aegospotami</placeName>, and after that the rule of the “thirty tyrants,” and later
            the “decarchy.”</note>
        </p></div><div n="60" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>that the rest of the Hellenes fell upon such evil days that even now the calamities
          engendered in the several states by reason of that war are not yet forgotten;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Under the rule of the decarchies described in <bibl n="Isoc. 4.111">Isoc. 4.111 ff.</bibl></note> and that the Lacedaemonians, who then
          appeared to be at the height of their fortune, are reduced to their present state of
          misfortune,—all on account of Alcibiades.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Isocrates does
            not much exaggerate the mischief he wrought in Greek affairs generally.</note>
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