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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg019.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="261" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> For I believe that the teachers who are skilled in disputation and those who are
          occupied with astronomy and geometry and studies of that sort<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Compare Socrates' views, <bibl n="Xen. Mem. 4.7.2">Xen. Mem. 4.7.2
            ff.</bibl></note> do not injure but, on the contrary, benefit their pupils, not so much
          as they profess, but more than others give them credit for. </p></div><div n="262" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Most men see in such studies nothing but empty talk and hair-splitting; for none of these
          disciplines has any useful application either to private or to public affairs; nay, they
          are not even remembered for any length of time after they are learned because they do not
          attend us through life nor do they lend aid in what we do, but are wholly divorced from
          our necessities. </p></div><div n="263" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But I am neither of this opinion nor am I far removed from it; rather it seems to me both
          that those who hold that this training is of no use in practical life are right and that
          those who speak in praise of it have truth on their side. If there is a contradiction in
          this statement, it is because these disciplines are different in their nature from the
          other studies which make up our education; </p></div><div n="264" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>for the other branches avail us only after we have gained a knowledge of them, whereas
          these studies can be of no benefit to us after we have mastered them unless we have
          elected to make our living from this source, and only help us while we are in the process
          of learning. For while we are occupied with the subtlety and exactness of astronomy and
          geometry </p></div><div n="265" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>and are forced to apply our minds to difficult problems, and are, in addition, being
          habituated to speak and apply ourselves to what is said and shown to us, and not to let
          our wits go wool-gathering, we gain the power, after being exercised and sharpened on
          these disciplines, of grasping and learning more easily and more quickly those subjects
          which are of more importance and of greater value.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See
              <bibl n="Isoc. 12.26">Isoc. 12.26</bibl>; General Introd. p. xxiii.</note>
        </p></div><div n="266" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>I do not, however, think it proper to apply the term “philosophy” to a training which is
          no help to us in the present either in our speech or in our actions, but rather I would
          call it a gymnastic of the mind and a preparation for philosophy. It is, to be sure, a
          study more advanced than that which boys in school pursue, but it is for the most part the
          same sort of thing; </p></div><div n="267" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>for they also when they have labored through their lessons in grammar, music,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">A broad term including the study of poetry.</note> and the
          other branches, are not a whit advanced in their ability to speak and deliberate on
          affairs, but they have increased their aptitude for mastering greater and more serious
          studies. </p></div><div n="268" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>I would, therefore, advise young men to spend some time on these disciplines,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Compare Callicles' similar view about the study of philosophy
            in <bibl n="Plat. Gorg. 484c">Plat. Gorg. 484c</bibl>.</note> but not to allow their
          minds to be dried up by these barren subtleties, nor to be stranded on the speculations of
          the ancient sophists, who maintain, some of them, that the sum of things is made up of
          infinite elements; Empedocles that it is made up of four, with strife and love operating
          among them; Ion, of not more than three; Alcmaeon, of only two; Parmenides and Melissus,
          of one; and Gorgias, of none at all.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The fruitlessness of
            the speculations of the early philosophers (physicists) is shown, according to
            Isocrates, in the utter diversity of their views, for example, regarding the first
            principles or primary elements from which the world was created. At one extreme was
            Anaxagoras, who held that the primary elements were infinite in number; at the other was
            Gorgias, who in his nihilistic philosophy denied that there was any such thing as being
            or entity at all. Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 10.3">Isoc. 10.3</bibl>; <bibl n="Xen. Mem. 1.1.14">Xen. Mem. 1.1.14 ff.</bibl>; <bibl n="Plat. Soph. 242">Plat. Soph. 242</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="269" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For I think that such curiosities of thought are on a par with jugglers' tricks which,
          though they do not profit anyone, yet attract great crowds of the empty-minded, and I hold
          that men who want to do some good in the world must banish utterly from their interests
          all vain speculations and all activities which have no bearing on our lives. </p></div><div n="270" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Now I have spoken and advised you enough on these studies for the present. It remains to
          tell you about “wisdom” and “philosophy.”<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See General
            Introd. pp. xxvi ff.</note> It is true that if one were pleading a case on any other
          issue it would be out of place to discuss these words (for they are foreign to all
          litigation), but it is appropriate for me, since I am being tried on such an issue, and
          since I hold that what some people call philosophy is not entitled to that name, to define
          and explain to you what philosophy, properly conceived, really is. </p></div><div n="271" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>My view of this question is, as it happens, very simple. For since it is not in the
          nature of man to attain a science by the possession of which we can know positively what
          we should do or what we should say, in the next resort I hold that man to be wise who is
          able by his powers of conjecture to arrive generally at the best course, and I hold that
          man to be a philosopher who occupies himself with the studies from which he will most
          quickly gain that kind of insight.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 15.184">Isoc. 15.184</bibl> and note.</note>
        </p></div><div n="272" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> What the studies are which have this power I can tell you, although I hesitate to do so;
          they are so contrary to popular belief and so very far removed from the opinions of the
          rest of the world, that I am afraid lest when you first hear them you will fill the whole
          court-room with your murmurs and your cries. Nevertheless, in spite of my misgivings, I
          shall attempt to tell you about them; for I blush at the thought that anyone might suspect
          me of betraying the truth to save my old age and the little of life remaining to me.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Plat. Apol. 38c">Plat. Apol. 38c</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="273" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But, I beg of you, do not, before you have heard me, judge that I could have been so mad
          as to choose deliberately, when my fate is in your hands, to express to you ideas which
          are repugnant to your opinions if I had not believed that these ideas follow logically on
          what I have previously said, and that I could support them with true and convincing
          proofs. </p></div><div n="274" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> I consider that the kind of art which can implant honesty and justice in depraved
          natures has never existed and does not now exist, and that people who profess that power
          will grow weary and cease from their vain pretensions before such an education is ever
            found.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 13.21">Isoc. 13.21</bibl>;
              <bibl n="Thgn. 429">Theog. 429 ff.</bibl>; <bibl n="Xen. Mem. 1.2.19">Xen. Mem. 1.2.19
              ff.</bibl>; <bibl n="Plat. Meno 95">Plat. Meno 95 ff.</bibl></note>
        </p></div><div n="275" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But I do hold that people can become better and worthier if they conceive an ambition to
          speak well,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 13.15">Isoc.
            13.15</bibl>.</note> if they become possessed of the desire to be able to persuade their
          hearers, and, finally, if they set their hearts on seizing their advantage—I do not mean
          “advantage” in the sense given to that word by the empty-minded, but advantage in the true
          meaning of that term;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Compare his discussion of true
            advantage in <bibl n="Isoc. 3.2">Isoc. 3.2</bibl>; <bibl n="Isoc. 8.28">Isoc.
              8.28-35</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="276" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>and that this is so I think I shall presently make clear. For, in the first place, when
          anyone elects to speak or write discourses which are worthy of praise and honor, it is not
          conceivable that he will support causes which are unjust or petty or devoted to private
          quarrels, and not rather those which are great and honorable, devoted to the welfare of
          man and our common good; for if he fails to find causes of this character, he will
          accomplish nothing to the purpose. </p></div><div n="277" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>In the second place, he will select from all the actions of men which bear upon his
          subject those examples which are the most illustrious and the most edifying; and,
          habituating himself to contemplate and appraise such examples, he will feel their
          influence not only in the preparation of a given discourse but in all the actions of his
            life.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See General Introd. p. xxiv.</note> It follows,
          then, that the power to speak well and think right will reward the man who approaches the
          art of discourse with love of wisdom and love of honor. </p></div><div n="278" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Furthermore, mark you, the man who wishes to persuade people will not be negligent as to
          the matter of character; no, on the contrary, he will apply himself above all to establish
          a most honorable name among his fellow-citizens; for who does not know that words carry
          greater conviction when spoken by men of good repute than when spoken by men who live
          under a cloud, and that the argument which is made by a man's life is of more weight than
          that which is furnished by words?<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Aristot. Rh. 1356a">Aristot. Rh. 1356a</bibl>: <foreign xml:lang="grc">KURIWTA/TH
              PI/STIS TO\ H)=QOS</foreign>.</note> Therefore,the stronger a man's desire to persuade
          his hearers, the more zealously will he strive to be honorable and to have the esteem of
          his fellow-citizens. </p></div><div n="279" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> And let no one of you suppose that while all other people realize how much the scales of
          persuasion incline in favor of one who has the approval of his judges, the devotees of
          philosophy alone are blind to the power of good will. In fact, they appreciate this even
          more thoroughly than others, and they know, furthermore, </p></div><div n="280" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>that probabilities and proofs and all forms of persuasion support only the points in a
          case to which they are severally applied, whereas an honorable reputation not only lends
          greater persuasiveness to the words of the man who possesses it, but adds greater lustre
          to his deeds, and is, therefore, more zealously to be sought after by men of intelligence
          than anything else in the world. </p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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