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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg018.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="61" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For I know that under this constitution our ancestors were far superior to the rest of
          the world, and that the Lacedaemonians are the best governed of peoples because they are
          the most democratic;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Exclusive of the Perioeci and the
            Helots. See <bibl n="Aristot. Pol. 4.1294b 18">Aristot. Pol. 1294b 18 ff.</bibl></note>
          for in their selection of magistrates, in their daily life, and in their habits in
          general, we may see that the principles of equity and equality have greater influence than
          elsewhere in the world—principles to which oligarchies are hostile, while well-ordered
          democracies practise them continually. </p></div><div n="62" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Moreover, if we will examine into the history of the most illustrious and the greatest
          of the other states, we shall find that democratic forms of government are more
          advantageous for them than oligarchies. For if we compare our own government—which is
          criticized by everyone<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 7.15">Isoc.
              7.15</bibl>.</note>—not with the old democracy which I have described, but with the
          rule which was instituted by the Thirty,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The oligarchy of
            the thirty “Tyrants,” instituted with the help of the Spartans at the end of the
            Peloponnesian War, <date when="-0404">404 B.C.</date></note> there is no one who would
          not consider our present democracy a divine creation. </p></div><div n="63" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And I desire, even though some will complain that I am straying from my subject, to
          expound and to explain how much superior this government is to that of the Thirty, in
          order that I may not be accused of scrutinizing too minutely the mistakes of our
          democracy, while overlooking the many fine things which it has achieved. I promise,
          however, that the story will not be long or without profit to my hearers. </p></div><div n="64" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> When we lost our fleet in the <placeName key="tgn,7002638">Hellespont</placeName><note anchored="true" resp="ed">At the Battle of Arginusae, 406 B. C., the beginning of the
            end of the Peloponnesian War.</note> and our city was plunged into the disasters of that
          time, who of our older men does not know that the “people's party,”<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Many of them had been exiled by the Thirty or had fled for their lives.
            Thrasybulus placed himself at their head, defeated the Thirty in battle, and restored
            the democracy. See <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 2.4.10">Xen. Hell. 2.4.10 ff.</bibl></note> as
          they were called, were ready to go to any length of hardship to avoid doing what the enemy
          commanded, deeming it monstrous that anyone should see the city which had ruled over the
          Hellenes in subjection to another state, whereas the partisans of oligarchy were ready
          both to tear down the walls<note anchored="true" resp="ed">One of the terms insisted on by
            Lysander was that the “long walls” connecting <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> with the <placeName key="perseus,Piraeus">Piraeus</placeName> be
            demolished.</note> and to submit to slavery? </p></div><div n="65" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Or that at the time when the people were in control of affairs, we placed our garrisons
          in the citadels of other states, whereas when the Thirty took over the government, the
          enemy occupied the Acropolis of <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>?<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Lysander kept a Spartan garrison on the Acropolis during the
            rule of the Thirty. See <bibl n="Isoc. 8.92">Isoc. 8.92</bibl>; <bibl n="Isoc. 15.319">Isoc. 15.319</bibl>.</note> Or, again, that during the rule of the Thirty the
          Lacedaemonians were our masters, but that when the exiles returned and dared to fight for
          freedom, and Conon won his naval victory,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The Battle of
              <placeName key="tgn,5003757">Cnidus</placeName>, <date when="-0394">394 B.C.</date>,
            re-established the power of <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>.</note>
          ambassadors came from the Lacedaemonians and offered <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> the command of the sea?<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 9.68">Isoc. 9.68</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="66" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Yes, and who of my own generation does not remember that the democracy so adorned the
          city with temples and public buildings that even today visitors from other lands consider
          that she is worthy to rule not only over <placeName key="tgn,1000074">Hellas</placeName>
          but over all the world;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">In almost the same terms he praises
            Pericles for his adornment of <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>, <bibl n="Isoc. 15.234">Isoc. 15.234</bibl>.</note> while the Thirty neglected the public
          buildings, plundered the temples, and sold for destruction for the sum of three talents
          the dockyards<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The bitterest denunciation of the misrule of
            the Thirty is in the oration <title>Against Eratosthenes</title>, by Lysias (<bibl n="Lys. 12">Lys. 12</bibl>). At its close, he speaks of the sacrilege of the Thirty,
            particularly in selling off the treasures stored in the temples, and of their tearing
            down the dockyards of the <placeName key="perseus,Piraeus">Piraeus</placeName>.</note>
          upon which the city had spent not less than a thousand talents? </p></div><div n="67" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And surely no one could find grounds to praise the mildness<note anchored="true" resp="ed">An example of irony (litotes), a figure sparingly used by Isocrates. Cf.
            “outworn” in <bibl n="Isoc. 4.92">Isoc. 4.92</bibl>.</note> of the Thirty as against
          that of the people's rule! For when the Thirty took over the city, by vote of the
            Assembly,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Under duress. See <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 2.3.2">Xen. Hell. 2.3.2</bibl>.</note> they put to death fifteen hundred Athenians<note anchored="true" resp="ed">The same number is given in <bibl n="Isoc. 20.11">Isoc.
              20.11</bibl>.</note> without a trial and compelled more than five thousand to leave
            <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> and take refuge in the <placeName key="perseus,Piraeus">Piraeus</placeName>,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Only those
            enjoyed the franchise under the Thirty who were in the catalogue of the approved “three
            thousand.” See <bibl n="Isoc. 18.17">Isoc. 18.17</bibl>.</note> whereas when the exiles
          overcame them and returned to <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> under
          arms, these put to death only the chief perpetrators of their wrongs and dealt so
          generously and so justly by the rest<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Plat. Menex. 243e">Plat. Menex. 243e</bibl>.</note> that those who had driven the
          citizens from their homes fared no worse than those who had returned from exile. </p></div><div n="68" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But the best and strongest proof of the fairness of the people is that, although those
          who had remained in the city had borrowed a hundred talents from the Lacedaemonians<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Lys. 12.59">Lys. 12.59</bibl>.</note> with which
          to prosecute the siege of those who occupied the <placeName key="perseus,Piraeus">Piraeus</placeName>, yet later when an assembly of the people was held to consider the
          payment of the debt, and when many insisted that it was only fair that the claims of the
          Lacedaemonians should be settled, not by those who had suffered the siege, but by those
          who had borrowed the money, nevertheless the people voted to pay the debt out of the
          public treasury.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">This is attested to by Aristotle (<bibl n="Aristot. Ath. Pol. 40">Aristot. Ath. Pol. 40</bibl>) in a passage which pays a high
            compliment to the admirable spirit in which the feud between the two parties was wiped
            out.</note>
        </p></div><div n="69" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And in truth it was because of this spirit that they brought us into such concord with
          each other and so far advanced the power of the city that the Lacedaemonians, who under
          the rule of the oligarchy laid their commands upon us almost every day, under the rule of
          the people came begging and supplicating us not to allow them to be driven from their
            homes.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">After the Battle of Leuctra. See <bibl n="Isoc. 8.105">Isoc. 8.105</bibl>; <bibl n="Xen. Hell. 6.5.33">Xen. Hell. 6.5.33
              ff.</bibl></note> In a word the spirit of the two parties was this: the oligarchies
          were minded to rule over their fellow-citizens and be subject to their enemies; the
          people, to rule over the world at large and share the power of the state on equal terms
          with their fellow-citizens. </p></div><div n="70" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> I have recounted these things for two reasons: because I wanted to show, in the first
          place, that I am not in favor of oligarchy or special privilege, but of a just and orderly
          government of the people, and, in the second place, that even badly constituted
          democracies are responsible for fewer disasters than are oligarchies, while those which
          are well-ordered are superior to oligarchies in that they are more just, more impartial,
          and more agreeable to those who live under them. </p></div><div n="71" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> But perhaps some of you may wonder what my purpose is in trying to persuade you to
          exchange the polity which has achieved so many fine things for another, and why it is that
          after having just now eulogized democracy in such high terms, I veer about capriciously
          and criticize and condemn the present order. </p></div><div n="72" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Well, I reproach men in private life when they succeed in a few things and fail in many,
          and regard them as falling short of what they ought to be; and, more than that, when men
          are sprung from noble ancestors and yet are only a little better than those who are
          distinguished for depravity, and much worse than their fathers, I rebuke them and would
          counsel them to cease from being what they are. </p></div><div n="73" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And I am of the same mind also regarding public affairs. For I think that we ought not to
          be proud or even satisfied should we have shown ourselves more law-regarding than men
          accursed by the gods and afflicted with madness,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">With
            particular reference to the Thirty.</note> but ought much rather to feel aggrieved and
          resentful should we prove to be worse than our ancestors; for it is their excellence and
          not the depravity of the Thirty which we should strive to emulate, especially since it
          behoves Athenians to be the best among mankind. </p></div><div n="74" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> This is not the first time that I have expressed this sentiment; I have done so many
          times and before many people. For I know that while other regions produce varieties of
          fruits and trees and animals, each peculiar to its locality and much better than those of
          other lands, our own country is able to bear and nurture men who are not only the most
          gifted in the world in the arts and in the powers of action and of speech, but are also
          above all others in valor and in virtue.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 4.33">Isoc. 4.33</bibl>; <bibl n="Isoc. 8.94">Isoc. 8.94</bibl>.</note>
        </p></div><div n="75" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> This conclusion we may justly draw from the ancient struggles which they carried on
          against the Amazons and the Thracians and all of the Peloponnesians, and also from the
          wars which they waged against the Persians, in which, both when they fought alone and when
          they were aided by the Peloponnesians, whether on land or on the sea, they were victorious
          over the barbarians and were adjudged the meed of valor;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">This paragraph sums up Athenian achievements in war which are stated at length in <bibl n="Isoc. 4.51">Isoc. 4.51-98</bibl>. Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 6.42">Isoc. 6.42</bibl>; <bibl n="Isoc. 12.42">Isoc. 12.42 ff.</bibl></note> for they could not have achieved these
          things, had they not far surpassed other men in the endowments of nature. </p></div><div n="76" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> But let no one think that this eulogy is appropriate to those who compose the present
          government—far from it; for such words are a tribute to those who show themselves worthy
          of the valor of their forefathers, but a reproach to those who disgrace their noble origin
          by their slackness and their cowardice. And this is just what we are doing; for you shall
          have the truth. For although we were blessed with such a nature at our birth, we have not
          cherished and preserved it, but have, on the contrary, fallen into folly and confusion and
          lust after evil ways. </p></div><div n="77" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> But if I go on attacking the things which admit of criticism and of censure in our
          present order, I fear that I shall wander too far afield from my subject. In any case I
          have spoken about these things before,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 8.49">Isoc. 8.49 ff.</bibl></note> and I shall do so again if I do not
          succeed in persuading you to cease from such mistakes of policy. For the present, I shall
          speak but a few words on the theme which I proposed to discuss in the beginning and then
          yield the platform to any who desire to address you upon this question. </p></div><div n="78" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> If we continue to govern <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName> as we are
          now doing, then we are doomed to go on deliberating and waging war and living and faring
          and acting in almost every respect just as we do at the present moment and have done in
          the past; but if we effect a change of polity, it is evident by the same reasoning that
          such conditions of life as our ancestors enjoyed will come about for us also; for from the
          same political institutions there must always spring like or similar ways of life. </p></div><div n="79" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> But we must take the most significant of these ways and, comparing one with the other,
          decide which is preferable for us. And first let us consider how the Hellenes and the
          barbarians felt towards the earlier polity as compared with how they are now disposed
          towards us; for other peoples contribute not the least part of our well-being when they
          are properly disposed towards us. </p></div><div n="80" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>Well then, the Hellenes felt such confidence in those who governed the city in those
          times that most of them of their own accord placed themselves under the power of
            <placeName key="perseus,Athens">Athens</placeName>,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf.
              <bibl n="Isoc. 8.76">Isoc. 8.76</bibl>.</note> while the barbarians were so far from
          meddling in the affairs of the Hellenes that they neither sailed their ships-of-war this
          side of the Phaselis nor marched their armies beyond the <placeName key="tgn,6002441">Halys River</placeName>, refraining, on the contrary, from all aggression.<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 4.118">Isoc. 4.118</bibl> and note; <bibl n="Isoc. 12.59">Isoc. 12.59</bibl>.</note>
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