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                    <TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0"><text xml:lang="eng"><body><div type="translation" n="urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0010.tlg013.perseus-eng2" xml:lang="eng"><div n="41" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>But the truth is that in discourses of this sort we should not seek novelties, for in
          these discourses it is not possible to say what is paradoxical or incredible or outside
          the circle of accepted belief; but, rather, we should regard that man as the most
          accomplished in this field who can collect the greatest number of ideas scattered among
          the thoughts of all the rest and present them in the best form. </p></div><div n="42" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Moreover, this has been clear to me from the first, that while all men think that those
          compositions, whether in verse or prose, are the most useful which counsel us how to live,
          yet it is certainly not to them that they listen with greatest pleasure; nay, they feel
          about these just as they feel about the people who admonish them; for while they praise
          the latter, they choose for associates<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 1.45">Isoc. 1.45</bibl>.</note> those who share in, and not those who would
          dissuade them from, their faults. </p></div><div n="43" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>As a case in point, one might cite the poetry of Hesiod and Theognis and Phocylides;<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Theognis and Phocylides (middle of sixth century) were the
            leading gnomic poets. Theognis was used in the schools, and we have over a thousand of
            his verses. Phocylides survives in but a few fragments. Hesiod is classed with them
            because in his epic <title>The Works and Days</title> are scattered many maxims.</note>
          for these, they say, have proved the best counsellors for human conduct; but in spite of
          what they say, people prefer to occupy themselves with each other's follies rather than
          with the admonitions of these teachers. </p></div><div n="44" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>And, again, if one were to make a selection from the leading poets of their maxims, as we
          call them, into which they have put their best thought, men would show a similar attitude
          toward them also; for they would lend a readier ear to the cheapest comedy<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Isocrates had a poor opinion of comedy, himself having been
            subjected to its licence. Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 8.14">Isoc. 8.14</bibl>.</note> than to the
          creations of such finished art. Yet why should I spend time in giving single instances?
        </p></div><div n="45" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>For if we are willing to survey human nature as a whole, we shall find that the majority
          of men do not take pleasure in the food<note anchored="true" resp="ed">Cf. <bibl n="Isoc. 1.45">Isoc. 1.45</bibl>.</note> that is the most wholesome, nor in the
          pursuits that are the most honorable, nor in the actions that are the noblest, nor in the
          creatures that are the most useful, but that they have tastes which are in every way
          contrary to their best interests, while they view those who have some regard for their
          duty as men of austere and laborious lives. </p></div><div n="46" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>How, then, can one advise or teach or say anything of profit and yet please such people?
          For, besides what I have said of them, they look upon men of wisdom with suspicion, while
          they regard men of no understanding as open and sincere; and they so shun the verities of
          life that they do not even know their own interests: nay, it irks them to take account of
          their own business and it delights them to discuss the business of others; </p></div><div n="47" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>and they would rather be ill in body than exert the soul and give thought to anything in
          the line of duty. Observe them when they are in each other's company, and you will find
          them giving and taking abuse; observe them when they are by themselves, and you will find
          them occupied, not with plans, but with idle dreams. I am, however, speaking now not of
          all, but of those only who are open to the charges I have made. </p></div><div n="48" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> This much, however, is clear, that those who aim to write anything in verse or prose
          which will make a popular appeal should seek out, not the most profitable discourses, but
          those which most abound in fictions; for the ear delights in these just as the eye
          delights in games and contests. Wherefore we may well admire the poet Homer and the first
          inventors of tragedy, seeing that they, with true insight into human nature, have embodied
          both kinds of pleasure in their poetry; </p></div><div n="49" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>for Homer has dressed the contests and battles of the demigods in myths, while the tragic
          poets have rendered the myths in the form of contests and action, so that they are
          presented, not to our ears alone, but to our eyes as well. With such models, then, before
          us, it is evident that those who desire to command the attention of their hearers must
          abstain from admonition and advice, and must say the kind of things which they see are
          most pleasing to the crowd. </p></div><div n="50" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> I have dwelt on these matters because I think that you, who are not one of the multitude
          but a king over the multitude, ought not to be of the same mind as men at large; you ought
          not to judge what things are worthy or what men are wise by the standard of pleasure, but
          to appraise them in the light of conduct that is useful; </p></div><div n="51" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>especially, since the teachers of philosophy, however much they debate about the proper
          discipline of the soul (some contending that it is through disputation,<note anchored="true" resp="ed">See <bibl n="Isoc. 12.26">Isoc. 12.26</bibl>; <bibl n="Isoc. 15.261">Isoc. 15.261</bibl>; General Introduction, p. xxi.</note> others that
          it is through political discussion, others that it is through other means that their
          disciples are to attain to greater wisdom), yet are all agreed on this, that the
          well-educated man must, as the result of this training in whatever discipline, show
          ability to deliberate and decide. </p></div><div n="52" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>You should, therefore, avoid what is in controversy and test men's value in the light of
          what is generally agreed upon, if possible taking careful note of them when they present
          their views on particular situations; or, if that is not possible, when they discuss
          general questions. And when they are altogether lacking in what they ought to know, reject
          them (for it is clear that if one is of no use in himself, neither can he make another man
          wise); </p></div><div n="53" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p>but when they are intelligent and able to see farther than the rest, prize them and
          cherish them, knowing that a good counsellor is the most useful and the most princely of
          all possessions. And believe that those contribute most to the greatness of your reign who
          can contribute most to your understanding. </p></div><div n="54" subtype="section" type="textpart"><p> Now I, for my part, have offered you all the good counsels which I know, and I honor you
          with these gifts which I have at my command; and do you, recalling what I said in the
          beginning, desire that your other friends also shall bring you, not the usual presents,
          which you purchase at a much greater cost from those who give than from those who sell,
          but gifts of such a nature that, even though you make hard use of them every day without
          fail, you will never wear them out, but will, on the contrary, enlarge them and increase
          their worth.</p></div></div></body></text></TEI>
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